spudmunkey
Well-Known Member
After yet-another election shitshow in the US, what are bi-partisan ways the election process could be improved?
I specify "bi-partisan" because there are a lot of ways that I will concede likely favor the left (like eliminating the electoral college, statehood for Puerto Rico, etc) and some that would likely favor the right (left-leaning voters would be more willing to support a 3rd party candidate, more likely splitting their vote).
I have to admit, as much of a clusterfuck as it seems with basically every county doing things their own way, I do see how the US election itself it impossible to "hack" because of how de-centralized, so any efforts to make some sort of comprehensive national system would assuredly lead to less-secure results....what are some middle-ground ideas out there?
Here are some thoughts: I'm A-OK with ONLY counting ballots RECEIVED by the end election day....
...IF all states have early mail in ballots available more than 1 month before, early in person voting starts 2 weeks before. I'm all for stopping voter suppression, and I feel like that timeline is reasonable and haven't come across any arguments for needing a longer season other than "But....the more time the left has to vote, the more they do" which isn't a valid reason to extend it, IMO.
So many people are like "Why can Florida get it right, but Pennsylvania can't?" It's specifically BECAUSE they were allowed to process early ballots before election day. The laws in Florida were changed after the disastrous 2000 election to specifically allow it...and yet it's also what the right successfully out-lawed in Pennsylvania, to make them only able to START counting early ballots on election day...and then also tried to sue them to STOP counting at the end of election day.
I imagine it's too much to ask, but it would be great if, after the close of election day on Tuesday, that no results would be given until all counts are to be completed by noon Friday, and released all at once.
Other thoughts?
I specify "bi-partisan" because there are a lot of ways that I will concede likely favor the left (like eliminating the electoral college, statehood for Puerto Rico, etc) and some that would likely favor the right (left-leaning voters would be more willing to support a 3rd party candidate, more likely splitting their vote).
I have to admit, as much of a clusterfuck as it seems with basically every county doing things their own way, I do see how the US election itself it impossible to "hack" because of how de-centralized, so any efforts to make some sort of comprehensive national system would assuredly lead to less-secure results....what are some middle-ground ideas out there?
Here are some thoughts: I'm A-OK with ONLY counting ballots RECEIVED by the end election day....
...IF all states have early mail in ballots available more than 1 month before, early in person voting starts 2 weeks before. I'm all for stopping voter suppression, and I feel like that timeline is reasonable and haven't come across any arguments for needing a longer season other than "But....the more time the left has to vote, the more they do" which isn't a valid reason to extend it, IMO.
So many people are like "Why can Florida get it right, but Pennsylvania can't?" It's specifically BECAUSE they were allowed to process early ballots before election day. The laws in Florida were changed after the disastrous 2000 election to specifically allow it...and yet it's also what the right successfully out-lawed in Pennsylvania, to make them only able to START counting early ballots on election day...and then also tried to sue them to STOP counting at the end of election day.
I imagine it's too much to ask, but it would be great if, after the close of election day on Tuesday, that no results would be given until all counts are to be completed by noon Friday, and released all at once.
Other thoughts?
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