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why's that? I don't think i am being contradictory. Swans aren't the kind of music most metalheads would like, but their influence extends pretty far into modern metal (ie the sludgey, post-metal kinds of bands)

you make baby jesus cry :(

You have no idea how much the modern metal scene owes to Swans. No swans, no neurosis, no isis, no cult of luna, and no sludge. Like all boundary stretching bands, of course nearly everybody will hate it. It's not really music for metal fans anyway, because it's not about how well the...

Napalm Death was NOTHING in terms of sheer heaviness and brutality compared to early Swans. Swans were like this gigantic, slow, churning hate machine. This was filmed before ND had a demo out. 1986.

actually, i may change my answer to Swans. Early period.

should be, considering Dead As Dreams is the best bm album ever, and WITTR owe everything to it :p

Corrupted \m/

Atmosphere. Hard to actually pinpoint what that is, but a lot of the heaviest music i know isn't metal at all.

Haul on the way in the mail: Seven Mile Journey - The Metamorphosis Project Skepticism - Alloy Enslaved - Vertebrae Samothrace - Life's Trade Esoteric - Epistemological Despondency Tatsuya Yoshida & Eiko Ishibashi - Slip Beneath The Distant Tree Current 93 - Inmost Light Swans - Children Of...

Not trying to step on toes, but i would say to almost always stay away from any metal (especially black metal) related ambient. It's almost always overly cheesy, no sense of depth, and flat out boring in my opinion. The only exceptions being the Aural Hypnox stuff (Dolorian related, not wintery...

It's the song Let The Computer Decide from the 2000 album Aligator Farm. This video is from around that time, as i remember seeing it posted on the JP forum around then.

Fair enough, but Opeth was not a popular band until BWP. The other bands you mentioned were much bigger. i got into metal the "typical" way (metallica, megadeth, slayer, then on to the 80's shred thing, then on to dream theater, then onto extreme metal), but at the point i'd heard Opeth, i'd...

Lately they've been a bit ehhh, but if you were around at any time when the first 5 were coming out you would understand. There was nothing like that at all, they had songwriting chops for days, and their ability to be so seamless with their clean and heavy sections was unparalleled. The metal...

dammit, they cut the cool "ahhhh aaaahhhh" vocal bit, and the fun detuning ending. I guess as a single you can't have it so long, and it has to be more to the point...

I'm mr. dark ambient, so from that avenue, here's a couple albums i think you should really check out: Northaunt - Shadows Over Barren Land Thomas Koner - Permafrost Necrophorus - Drifting In Motion other frosty, wintery albums: Drudkh - Autumn Aurora Agalloch - The Mantle Marissa Nadler -...

hah, that's an old ass interview. They toured with Nevermore on their first north american tour in i think 2000.

It's probably the fact she only fits a few of the criteria. I also think the metal theme is implied by the description. I really don't think DG is what James is looking for.

Fourier transforms are my best friend! Use em all the time as a geophysicist

James, you ponce. First thing that came to mind to me was Deathspell Omega's latest album, Fas - Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum. Here's a tune. http://www.bumblelovesmusic.com/Music/DeathspellOmega-BreadOfBitterness.mp3 I will keep thinking for you.

Thank you. That makes me the 69th thank you. pwn