Agile Chirality/Chiral Parallax Headless Models

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Those top string locks are allegedly pretty awful and will break unwound strings like nothing
 

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I quite like (an obscene lot actually) the headless 627 in blue flame... It's talking to me... It's not gonna happen. I must be strong...

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This with a maple board would be beautiful.
 

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The headstock paddles on both versions are a big turn-off. I don't mind the multi-color burl burst tops (the brown one is a bit more understated), despite the trendiness of the design. But the headstock paddles just make makes the first impression is become, "Oh look, a low-rent knockoff Strandberg or headless Kiesel."

I'd also be concerned about the quality of the Cepheus knockoff hardware holding up over time, since the true headless design seems more "high performance" vs. standard guitars. (I don't have any experience with headless guitars, just my perception anyways.)
 

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The headstock paddles on both versions are a big turn-off. I don't mind the multi-color burl burst tops (the brown one is a bit more understated), despite the trendiness of the design. But the headstock paddles just make makes the first impression is become, "Oh look, a low-rent knockoff Strandberg or headless Kiesel."

I'd also be concerned about the quality of the Cepheus knockoff hardware holding up over time, since the true headless design seems more "high performance" vs. standard guitars. (I don't have any experience with headless guitars, just my perception anyways.)
If they cut off the wood above those string retainers at a slant, the headstock would look 70% better imo. Someone please photoshop it
 

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hmmm.... 50% better.
70% is too generous

Anyway, thank you so much for this ^^^
really, I appreciate it
Way too nice of a review for something that I spent 3 minutes of effort on doing with a free photoshop alternative. :lol:

But thanks all the same.
 

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Do you know if any brands make any better ones that would do the job?

There's got to be some sort of crimp bead that uses a set screw.

Just drill 6 holes in the headstock, put ferrules in the back, pass the strings threw, fasten a bead to each string, then tune up. The ferrule will catch the bead and you're good to go. Its basically adding a ball to the other end of the string but, AFTER its passed through the ferrule in the headstock.

It would take up way less space and you could chop the rest of that paddle off.
 

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There's got to be some sort of crimp bead that uses a set screw.

Just drill 6 holes in the headstock, put ferrules in the back, pass the strings threw, fasten a bead to each string, then tune up. The ferrule will catch the bead and you're good to go. Its basically adding a ball to the other end of the string but, AFTER its passed through the ferrule in the headstock.

It would take up way less space and you could chop the rest of that paddle off.
congrats you just basically created double ball strings, something steinberger did like 30 years ago.
 

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congrats you just basically created double ball strings, something steinberger did like 30 years ago.

Except you couldn’t use double ball on the design i described. But yeah basically double ball, just the end user adds the ball after the string is through the headstock.

And its definitely not an original idea. I just don’t know what the beads are called. “Set screw string retainer bead”? Idk

The point was if you wanted to, you could make that headstock shorter by yourself if you’re determined.
 

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Except you couldn’t use double ball on the design i described. But yeah basically double ball, just the end user adds the ball after the string is through the headstock.

And its definitely not an original idea. I just don’t know what the beads are called. “Set screw string retainer bead”? Idk

The point was if you wanted to, you could make that headstock shorter by yourself if you’re determined.
I mean you essentially over engineered the idea . It really doesn't get any easier than a washer/metal disc that goes on top of the string in the space and a screw to push down on said disc. Or you could just do a floyd style locking nut since those are less finicky. Even goofy looking shit like Toone's tuners rely on literally clamping the strings down.
 


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