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My thoughts go out to the families of the victims of the shooting
But unfortunately, with news like this, it was gonna be a matter of time until some other news corporation gets a hold of it, and blow it all out of proportion
Fox News Expert Links Connecticut Shooting To Violent Video Games
Fox, why can't you do this really amazing thing that's been around for ages, it's called doing your research
But you're still not getting it... you take away the utensil from the crazy person, they can always find another one. The dude in China didn't have access to a gun, that didn't stop him from grabbing a knife and attacking 23 people with it, did it? You take away the pencil, what's to keep him from looking for a pen? He'll still be going for the same goal, he'll just find another way to pull it off. You can't rationalize with crazy, dude, that's what I'm saying.If the person is fucked in the head and they're looking to do something terrible, they WILL find a way to do it.
It stopped him from murdering anybody. If anything that proves my point over yours. My analogy is absolutely the correct one, a pencil is a tool for writing as a gun is a tool for killing, you take it away and the person cannot write, or kill, as well, as seen by the substitution of a knife for a gun.
Fool, you could kill someone with that pencil. Should probably take those away too.
You could kill with your bare hands if you WANTED.
We give things purpose.
You have just said THIS
"Yeah I understand that part of it and not to continue to argue the point, but just because he wasn't successful in being lethal with the object doesn't change anything other than the victims will survive the attack."
Read that back. Do you think the families would settle for this? Do you think gun control would be worth it for this?
Once again, no-one ever talks about a 25 dead knife rampage. It's guns guns guns guns guns.
Did you read my post following that one? Stabbings aren't always non-lethal, go grab the statistic on how many are fatal and get back to me. I said IN THAT CASE, the victims were survivors. That's the only difference when directly comparing THOSE TWO CASES. Don't pick apart the posts using the pieces you feel like it to try to make yourself seem correct. You missed the point of the post completely.
Dog... You don't always die from gunshots either but can die from both stabwounds and gunshots. You're trying too hard.
I'm gonna throw a name out there. Maybe you know it?
OJ Simpson...
But you're still not getting it... you take away the utensil from the crazy person, they can always find another one. The dude in China didn't have access to a gun, that didn't stop him from grabbing a knife and attacking 23 people with it, did it? You take away the pencil, what's to keep him from looking for a pen? He'll still be going for the same goal, he'll just find another way to pull it off. You can't rationalize with crazy, dude, that's what I'm saying.If the person is fucked in the head and they're looking to do something terrible, they WILL find a way to do it.
You can kill a man w your bare hands pretty fast if you know how or they accidentally fall the wrong way...
It's not the tool. It's the intentions...
I get the analogy is imperfect but the point is, the gun is a VERY effective and efficient killing machine. If it weren't, why would people be arguing so strongly for their right to own one to defend themselves? After all, apparently knives and broken bottles are just as useful right? No, they're not because a gun is capable of killing at a further distance than a knife or other melee weapons, and obviously automatic/semi-automatic weapons have the ability to deliver their dose at a much faster rate than somebody could plunging a knife into somebody, then back out and into somebody else.
It's actually kinda silly that I have to explain this, TBH. Not to be insulting. But it's kinda obvious that a gun is a more effective weapon for killing large groups of people than a melee weapon...?
The only thing worse would probably be explosives, a lot of which can be constructed at home but guess what...? Those are illegal. I don't know whether there's a correlation or not but there aren't a lot of improvised explosives used in mass killings in the US. If there are, I'll go out on a limb and say they're responsible for a lot less of the fatal wounds inflicted on victims than bullets.
On all of this bullshit arguing, let's see who can kill a large group of people quicker: Me in a full size pickup truck, or you with a handgun. In that case, we need more strict driving laws.These comparisons are ridiculous. This is why, other than the obvious tragedy, when something like this happens, I just hide my head and try to avoid the nonsense bickering in which everyone thinks they have the right answer to avoid any and all similar situations. 20 children died today, and all we can do is argue about who can kill how many with what more efficiently. Sickening.
Where i went to school there was atleast 2-4 armed security in every school in the city, notably at my high school one in every corner of the building.They were also quite strict on who they let in and why. I think this practice really needs to start becoming routine everywhere, and we never even had a threat of a shooting ever occur, just prepared.How about armed security guards that don't necessarily interact with the children, but they're nearby incase of emergency? How about being more strict about who are allowed in and out of school building and when?
See, that wasn't hard.