Burning Hot Metal Takes

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youngthrasher9

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@youngthrasher9 I'm a little biased as big B has been my favorite player since picking up the instrument some 15+ years ago, but he's legit - an actual GOAT. His body of work can be intimidating but there's a ton of recommendation charts and lists you can find.
I recently heard Pike 65 and told myself I’d listen to more of his work. The melodies in that made me legit emotional.
 

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I recently heard Pike 65 and told myself I’d listen to more of his work. The melodies in that made me legit emotional.

I feel like most of his stuff up through Crime Slunk Scene was pretty melodically coherent, but at a certain point it seemed like his stuff just went over the edge and it was just everything and anything can be a song/album, and he's been putting stuff out at even higher rate than before.

Population Override will always be my favorite from him, maybe because it's the least likely to be from him?
 

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Alright now I’ll contribute:

Whammy pedal use almost always ruins a song for me.

Shred is bodybuilding for guitar players and djent is non-combat martial arts.

Symphonic elements in metal are hilariously overused.

John Petrucci is amazing but dream theater sucks.

Metallica hasn’t had a good guitar sound in decades.

Some of the best current death metal vocalists are in deathcore bands.

War Eternal is the best Arch Enemy album and Alissa White-Gluz is an unlikeable vocalist otherwise.

The best uses of Mikael Akerfeldts vocals were on Unblessing the Purity (other than BWP, that doesn’t count).

Clean guitar parts in metal are usually boring as fuck and poorly executed.
 

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I'd list my favourite Buckethead albums from top to bottom, but I don't think it'd all fit in one post, or even one thread... :lol:

I've always had a soft spot for Somewhere over the Slaughterhouse, mainly because of when it came out and how it spoke to me at that time, but The Cuckoo Clocks of Hell is my #1. Enter the Chicken was really good, too. Next up I'd put Giant Robot, then Monsters and Robots and then Bucketheadland 2, and then SotS. I'm a huge Buckethead fan, so I'll listen to any of his records pikes or whatever. I wish I had seen him more in concert, but I've still managed to check out 3 shows. Each one was totally different in tone but they all blew me away.
 

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Here's one that's difficult for me to embrace myself:

Being a musician has progressively made my taste in music worse over time.

The stuff I prefer to listen to nowadays would be considered unlistenable to most people.

I went from liking the Police to Stevie Wonder to Led Zeppelin to Metallica to Dream Theater to Symphony X to Spastic Ink to Happy Family to Estradasphere to Vladimir Bozar in ze Sheraf Orchestrar...
 

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Kreator and Razor are the best thrash bands of their day.

Dillinger Escape Plan should have called it quits after the EP with Mike Patton.

Opeth were always terrible as a metal band and couldn't structure a song coherently to save their lives.

Mastodon are just Five Finger Death Punch for democrats and people who drink IPAs.

Nu metal was a more interesting sub genre than djent which is just a Xeroxed version of nu metal from a printer running out of toner.

Wes Borland is not underrated.

Crimson by Edge of Sanity sucks.

Slaughter of the Soul is both the worst At the Gates album and one of the most uninspired melodeath albums ever made, which explains why lots of metalcore is so worthless.

Lamb of God are one of the most boring bands to ever come out of their city.

98% of deathcore is uninteresting, bland edgelord music written by millenials on a cocktail of Adderall, weed and internet porn to appeal to insecure guys who feel empowered by their Very Terrifying Taste in Music™ and girls who want to date misogynistic guys with lip rings.

Most subgenres are no more stagnant than they were 20 years ago and anyone who says that is a lazy, uninformed whiner who probably expects algorithms to find stuff for them instead of doing the legwork themselves.

Dio was the worst singer Black Sabbath ever had.

The Sound of Perseverance should never have been released under the Death name and is by far the worst album in the catalogue.

The poser Napalm Death albums are way cooler than anything they did afterwards.
 

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Here's one that's difficult for me to embrace myself:

Being a musician has progressively made my taste in music worse over time.

The stuff I prefer to listen to nowadays would be considered unlistenable to most people.

I went from liking the Police to Stevie Wonder to Led Zeppelin to Metallica to Dream Theater to Symphony X to Spastic Ink to Happy Family to Estradasphere to Vladimir Bozar in ze Sheraf Orchestrar...

Definitely relate to this. I listen to a lot of weird noise/drone and abrasive shit like death grips and I think it's all brilliant but let's just say it's not much fun at parties and I try to filter my music heavily when I'm playing it at work.
 

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I strongly disagree. It was this highly spec'd custom shop guitar that made the guitarist sound better
He also referred to it as his "red piece of shit," and probably paid about 400 bucks for it in total. That aside, he could've played a Classic Vibe series Squier and made it sound great.
 

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I'd list my favourite Buckethead albums from top to bottom, but I don't think it'd all fit in one post, or even one thread... :lol:

I've always had a soft spot for Somewhere over the Slaughterhouse, mainly because of when it came out and how it spoke to me at that time, but The Cuckoo Clocks of Hell is my #1. Enter the Chicken was really good, too. Next up I'd put Giant Robot, then Monsters and Robots and then Bucketheadland 2, and then SotS. I'm a huge Buckethead fan, so I'll listen to any of his records pikes or whatever. I wish I had seen him more in concert, but I've still managed to check out 3 shows. Each one was totally different in tone but they all blew me away.
I have liked what I have listened to from Buckethead, but the dude has like 400 releases, so it's a bit confusing what to start with. I LOVED the Doom soundtrack.
 

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Here's one that's difficult for me to embrace myself:

Being a musician has progressively made my taste in music worse over time.

The stuff I prefer to listen to nowadays would be considered unlistenable to most people.

I went from liking the Police to Stevie Wonder to Led Zeppelin to Metallica to Dream Theater to Symphony X to Spastic Ink to Happy Family to Estradasphere to Vladimir Bozar in ze Sheraf Orchestrar...
You need more Prashant Aswani in your life, bro...
 

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djent is non-combat martial arts.

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Link one, please.

Here's a slightly dated but well curated bunch of charts and here's a literal Pike Suggester. The real tragedy is even with this level of documentation there's still great live-only songs he never put on any album or Pike series. You'll literally have to YouTube 'Untitled' plus a date to find certain ones and a bunch of them are phenomenal. His more ambient stuff is heavily sampled in some contemporary hip-hop, too.

As stated, his body of work is extremely dense and somewhat turbulent to navigate. Personally speaking I find a good introduction to his music is to separate the basics: Pre-Pike and post-Pike. When he began the Pike series his output reach turbo+ mode and that level of consistent volume coupled with all his pre-Pike stuff (solo work, collaborations, side projects, various bands, studio albums, film work, etc.) makes a sum total approach a bit convoluted. His discography has its own hilariously long page and you'll actually find it useful. I suggest you check out the classic recommended pre-Pike stuff as per the first link and then start going through the Pike Suggester.

It's an absolutely massive amount of music to go through and as most everyone who's done so will tell you: completely worth it. You may not like every album but you will certainly find something you like, and the odds of you running out if you're starting now is a far-off concern.

Personal 'chill vibes Buckethead' pre-Pike recommendations: Colma, Electric Tears, Population Override, A Real Diamond in the Rough, Captain EO's Voyage.

Personal 'fuck yeah, Buckethead' pre-Pike recommendations: The Elephant Man's Alarm Clock, Giant Robot, Monsters and Robots, The Cuckoo Clocks of Hell, Albino Slug, Decoding the Tomb of Bansheebot, Pepper's Ghost, Enter the Chicken.

Best of luck to you.
 

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Not a hot take in the least (especially given my first comment in this thread) but just me tossing my sprinkling-of-black-pepper-opinion amongst the scorching-hot-habanero-takes in here:

Chill Buckethead is best Buckethead. Too Many Humans, Padmasana, Electric Tears, Sled Ride, A Real Diamond in the Rough are all such great songs. It's cool that most people know of him from Guitar Hero because of Jordan but Chill Buckethead deserves more recognition. Also, IIRC the GH version of Jordan is not even the original recording of the song and they asked him to amp it up for the game to make it insanely hard to play.
 
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