kevdes93
Sassy
didnt think of that ^ ill just go satin then, no biggie
Carvin Vader
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gunshow86de
Beef Jerky Time
I don't know if it's already been mentioned (and there's no way I'm searching 26 pages 
), but in one of the video interviews Jeff mentioned that all the Vaders will have the carbon-fiber reinforcement rods in the neck.
), but in one of the video interviews Jeff mentioned that all the Vaders will have the carbon-fiber reinforcement rods in the neck.
HighGain510
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I don't know if it's already been mentioned (and there's no way I'm searching 26 pages
Unless they made a change, I'm pretty sure Carvin had been doing that for years. They just made a point of calling it out in the video.
I don't think that's something "new" per se.
sartorious
a good lurking guy
So, would there be any additional benefit to having a 5-piece neck on a 27" scale? Or does that become redundant with carbon fiber reinforcement?
HighGain510
Contributor
I don't know if it's already been mentioned (and there's no way I'm searching 26 pages
Unless they made a change, I'm pretty sure Carvin had been doing that for years. They just made a point of calling it out in the video.
Not even just for 27" scale though, they've always had reinforcement rods. Here's a screen grab of the catalog from 1995 where they did dual steel reinforcement rods in the necks:
Later on they changed to carbon fiber reinforcement rods:
Unless they did away with them over the last 10 years and just decided to start using them again, it's not new for Carvin and AFAIK they've been doing it that way for quite some time now.
Aesthetics I guess?
As far as stability adding the extra wood is never a bad thing for stability as long as all the wood is seasoned properly, although properly seasoned neck blanks would likely be fine without anything but the graphite reinforcement rods in there. 
stevo1
ClearTrack Studios
Ok, confirmed with Chris that they can't do oil finishes on these. Probably going to go with KR green.
gunshow86de
Beef Jerky Time
Unless they made a change, I'm pretty sure Carvin had been doing that for years. They just made a point of calling it out in the video.
Hmm, I had no idea. You'd think they'd advertise it more. It's a really nice feature. They don't even have it on the current website.
HaloHat
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Actually some of the models had the reinforcement rod removed, at least for a while. I remember it being discussed at the Carvin forum some time ago. I do not recall for sure which models, I think possibly the DC127/135/145 etc though as I said I am not sure which models in total or if they are still without the reinforcement rods today.
I'm sure you can get your oil top but then it sounds like you would have to go with the Kiesel "Edition" model and its higher price. KRG sounds good ha. I guess the Kiesel's are all decal logos at this time? Carvin has the metal logos in gold and soon in silver. They have mentioned real inlaid MOP logos soon as well.
I'm sure its just me but I kind of feel decal logos look tacky on otherwise custom guitars.
I'm sure you can get your oil top but then it sounds like you would have to go with the Kiesel "Edition" model and its higher price. KRG sounds good ha. I guess the Kiesel's are all decal logos at this time? Carvin has the metal logos in gold and soon in silver. They have mentioned real inlaid MOP logos soon as well.
I'm sure its just me but I kind of feel decal logos look tacky on otherwise custom guitars.
SnowfaLL
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They did get rid of it for a few years (I wanna say mid 2000s), and now its only on the 27" scale guitars and basses. I know cause I made sure to ask about it in the ST300, CT624 and DC727 when I was deciding which to get, but it was not available in any of those (2013-2014) even as an opt 50. They claim their necks are stable enough without them and they only use it with longer scale guitars for that extra bit but obviously I'd feel safer with them. Probably why I'd get the 27" vader over 25.5"
niclebel
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I pre-oredered my Vader today. Heas up to everyone, tung oil is NOT available as a finish for the Vader, because the logo is situated on the top.
Chokey Chicken
mouth breather
Just got done placing my pre-order too. Prices are flippin' legit for what you get. My stupid ass is so impatient, but I'm stoked to know it'll be on it's way in the nearish future. Mine was relatively stock save for a couple things.
As it were, it will be 7 strings, have a burl top with night burst finish, stainless jumbo frets, ebony fret board with no top inlays. It was right around $1700 in the end. Not too shabby for something made in the USA with a spiffy top, stainless frets, and the fact that it's a headless. Super stoked to own my first Carvin/Kiesel, and these next few months can't pass quick enough.
As it were, it will be 7 strings, have a burl top with night burst finish, stainless jumbo frets, ebony fret board with no top inlays. It was right around $1700 in the end. Not too shabby for something made in the USA with a spiffy top, stainless frets, and the fact that it's a headless. Super stoked to own my first Carvin/Kiesel, and these next few months can't pass quick enough.
metalstrike
I love signature guitars!
God, I wish Carvin offered Rosewood necks, I'd order one on a Vader today. That will probably never happen though so I'll have to order one soon anyway!
Jake
GAS Master
It has happened though
(With customer supplied wood of course but still)Carvin.com BBS :: View topic - CT-6 Faded denim flame, rosewood neck
http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/standard-guitars/126151-carvin-does-rosewood-neck.html
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Extra 1-2 weeks of build time because 25.5" scale is still being programmed into the CNC. Important note for anyone interested: Candy Tangerine is a metallic opt50 color but does NOT void the 10-day return. It carries a $200 restocking fee however.
MetalThrasher
Thrash & Burn
I'll be ordering one soon! I think mine is going to be a barebones depending on price with options. I'm thinking either an orange with white edges or black limba body. Def going for the 25.5 scale. Anyone hear about the new pickup options? I heard that the new Kiesel pickups come in regular and high output. I wanna try the high output version!
HaloHat
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You can use their "Customer Provided Wood" option and send them the rosewood for your neck. ChrisH. here at the forum can assist you I'm sure.
My two DC7X's, one with a Wenge/Limba neck and one with a Bloodwood neck were both done by Carvin salesperson Steve Schisler [schisler@Carvin.com] and went totally smooth. He works with special requests really well.
It does make the guitar "non-returnable" and other conditions apply but if you want a Rosewood neck Vader it probably can be done. If you need a good wood broker contact, PM me and I'll give you the info on a really good place for guitar wood...
I'm hoping for a trem version V7 but I will order a non-trem V7 anyways if it looks like the trem version is not going to happen. 27" scale for me.
JustFlipACoin
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So with Tung-Oil not being an option, does anyone here have any experience with their clear satin finish? I'm not too keen on gloss finishes.
decreebass
Business Secrets of the Pharoahs
It looks good, but it will start to shine in high traffic areas (like any satin finish). When they agreed to re-finish my pink DC800 I requested the gloss finish since originally it had been satin; the glossy areas started to grate on me a little so I figured if I get it gloss to start out with, I cut out the middle man.
stevo1
ClearTrack Studios
I have experience with their older style of satin finishes. They updated the process a few months ago, and the satin finishes are way thinner. The old process made the satin finishes thicker than the gloss finishes for some reason..
This is all info I got from Chris H. Though!
They seem pretty durable too. The finish I have doesn't really show any glossing yet, and I play mine daily. But it is the older style satin, so keep that in mind.
