This thread is sorely lacking in Helmet:
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It's not real versus weak. It is more like real versus lame. What always attracted me to metal was that it is agressive, angry stuff that you bang your head to and run into other people while listening to it. If I wanted to dance, I'd do E and buy glow sticks like everyone else.
I should also mention that I never got the macho, "real" vs. "weak" metal thing. I don't get why metal has to be "tough", etc. I've always seen metal (at least, modern metal) as being a way of breaking the rules, defying expectations, and being loud/big/noisy sounding, bringing in any influences that they wanted to.
It's not a macho "must be manly" weak, it's weakly written metal. It could be said that the Nightwish song you picked was trying to be "tough" far more than Exodus' Toxic Waltz. Metal is not dance club music, period. I would not consider any of the music you posted to be dance music, and I spent the better part of 4 years listening to nothing but techno and trance, while doing the clubs 5 nights a week.
Dance music is dance music.![]()
I'm not saying it's dance music, I'm saying it's got a solid beat, and there are, in fact, people dancing to it in the videos![]()
I wouldn't dance to that stuff.
Dance clubs would never play that stuff anyway, they're more about popularity and getting as many females through the door as possible. I turned to dance music to get away from metal, and the lame shallowness of the whole thing drove me back to the b00talz.
I mean, if you wanna dance to this stuff, go right ahead, but I wouldn't expect a metal dance club to spring up. heh
I'm not saying I want to dance to this stuff, or that people in general would, I'm just saying I love the feel of this music, and it's fun to play because it gives you more options than just headbanging and its many varieties.
And actually, there was a club here that was reasonably successful that mixed in this kind of stuff with industrial. Pictures lots of goth girls dancing like skanks.
I didn't think he was actually serious about dancing to itI just thought he wanted metal with a nice groove/beat.
I wouldn't dance to that stuff.
Dance clubs would never play that stuff anyway, they're more about popularity and getting as many females through the door as possible. I turned to dance music to get away from metal, and the lame shallowness of the whole thing drove me back to the b00talz.
I mean, if you wanna dance to this stuff, go right ahead, but I wouldn't expect a metal dance club to spring up. heh