Do Macs suck?

[The Dark Wolf]

You're terrible there TDW, just terrible

Mow you know the awful truth, NLB.

 

[nitelightboy]

HAHAHAHAHA

 

[7 Dying Trees]

I hate logic being exclusive to macs as i'm forever stuck using the lasst PC version. Having said that though, i dount i actually need all the new bells and whistles the new versions come with.

For all intents and purposes i prefer having a PC where i can quite happily slap in cards, screw about with putting them together to the spec i want and being able to choose operating systems for it.

Now I am not a huge fan of XP, but it does the job. I still like win2000 as it's actually very stable (the only way i've crashed it is by doing bad programming things)

Macs on the other hand... Well, apart from a newer version of logic there's absolutely no point in me getting one at all. Sometimes i think mac users just feel they have to think it's the best thing out there to justify all the money they've just wasted

 

[darren]

The same could be said about just about any "premium" product, like, say, a BMW.

 

[bostjan]

The same could be said about just about any "premium" product, like, say, a BMW.

Or a Pretige Ibanez?

I'm sorry, but I'm a fan of quality.

IMHO, there are PC's that are just as good as mac's, but cheap junk will always be PC and will always have troubles. My friends in high school all said the same thing when i bought my IBM. They all bought cheap Packerd Bell computers and guess what- my IBM still works! Only thing I replaced was the power supply so I could add CD-ROM and a second hard drive.

Why hassle around with cheap stuff when time is valuable?

 

[giannifive]

Umm, yeah, the whole Mac vs. PC debate is usually a flamewar I don't like to get involved in. However, I've recently started using an OS X laptop at work, so I now have some experience...

I'm a dyed-in-the-wool UNIX/Linux guy. So imagine my frustration when I couldn't figure out how to burn a CD on the Mac. I was like "on Linux it's simple; it's just 'cdrecord -v dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 -tao -data cd.iso'". That may sound crazy, but there really is a logic to it. On the Mac, at least for a newbie, there doesn't appear to be any logic. You just have to look until you find the right brightly-colored, exquisitely-rendered button. However, it may take forvever to find that button, and the Mac's help usually doesn't help at all.

The other thing about Macs that I find funny in a black humor sort of way are the totally confusing dialog messages that appear to involve some sort of circular logic. For example, when deleting a song from iTunes, this is the sequence of messages you get: 1) "Are you sure you want to remove the selected items from your music library?", and 2) "Do you want to move the selected items to the Trash, or keep them in the iTunes Music folder? Only files in the iTunes Music folder will be moved to the Trash". Huh? My other favorite, which I don't have the exact text of now, is about transferring keys from an old version of the Keychain thing to a new version. It asks a simple yes or no question like "Do you want to use your old keys?" and the options are "Change All" or "Don't Change". Huh?

I'm starting to get used to the Mac, but I can honestly say there is a larger volume of more powerful software available for Linux. The Mac is fine for most of my work, but for technical things I always use my Linux machine.

My 2 cents...

 

[garcia3441]

To err is human, but you need a computer to really screw things up.

 

[bostjan]

 

[Metal Ken]

That guy's just a moron. If he can't figure out how to use a Mac without making it crash, he must have a REALLY difficult time tying his shoes each morning. I've never had any of the problems he's b.s.ing about over the past 10 years. I don't use my computer for gaming, so I could care less.

Basicly, he's proof that Social Darwinism is not true.

Watch the WHOLE video ;p

 

[7stringninja]

The same could be said about just about any "premium" product, like, say, a BMW.

I would kill my own mother for a new M5


Oh, and Dark Horse, I never denied my porn collection. The "funny videos" is referring to random stuff like The GI JOE mpegs and stuff like that.

My porn is safely stored on DVD-R. No need to delete that

 

[7 Dying Trees]

I do agree however that cheap PC's that get pushed onto people that don't know any better with loads of crap installed are junk. I remember proprietry systems and components (like motherboards and RAM) all associated with Compaq et all back in the day that just meant even trying to upgrade a system was a nightmare. Some PC companies have been responsible for marketing some utter utter rubbish. And some companies still do to be honest... (especially not putting enough RAM in machines...)

In that respect macs are good, as they are standard pretty much and you know what you're getting.

Given the choice between a MAC and a high spec PC I'd always choose the PC thiough, as i know i can fiddle with it and modify it how I want, and run multiple OS's.

I just personally don't see the point in macs unless you have the funds to dedicate an entire machine to music or video. Plus macs just remind me of snobbery in my last musical escapade (which probably has a lot to do with my dislike of them)

 

[Flesh-EatingMonkey]

Watch the WHOLE video ;p

Yeah, it was a setup. He made the entire video on a Mac.

 

[Vegetta]

I am a PC guy but I use a mac at work...

A lot of what the guy was saying in the video is true...


spinning Beachball of death FTL

Macs can be very annoying - They have this thing called a keychain Manager- basically this is a password system that is supposed to prevent people from using software on your computer (like accessing your email-) All it really manages to do is fuck up fonts (yes fonts are installed per user - stupid) and forces me to enter a password whenever I use half the programs I need - (switching sites in dreamweaver, using the terminal,etc)

I see some people mention garageband - I actually use that to create bg music for video--- its not terrible but its pretty basic. It has a decent selection of effects and the few VSTs it has are ok (I mainly use strings and piano-) the loops it has are horrible (you have to shell out $99 for loop cds)

You can buy a PC that will match the performance of a mac for about half the price - I'm not saying Pcs are perfect either but IF I am paying for a pain in the ass - I am going with the less expensive route...

 

[darren]

Keychain Manager has nothing to do with allowing or not allowing people to use software... it just manages permissions and passwords.

Fonts can be installed per-user or system-wide. It all just depends on if you put them in the user's font directory or the system font directory.

GarageBand is pretty great considering it's FREE with the computer. And the samples that come with it are also pretty great considering they're FREE. Lots of other loops can be downloaded for FREE as well.

Nothing drives me nuts more than people talking shit without getting their facts straight.

 

[Chris]

I'm not a mac guy at all, but I'd love a mac recording rig.

 

[Ancestor]

WTF-ever. I like my Mac, because it's always the same - every time I turn it on. There are no radical configuration changes or necessary antivirus/spyware updates.

When I go to Morrisound to record, it's done on an Apple ProTools system. FCP was the first good affordable video editing program. Macs are made for artists to create art. The entire graphics department of my college is Mac-driven.

And, if you think UNIX is less efficient than some user interface that runs on top of DOS, you're nuts.

 

[bostjan]

And, if you think UNIX is less efficient than some user interface that runs on top of DOS, you're nuts.

Dude, maybe I misunderstand you, but Windows has been independant of DOS since 1998 or so.

I do think Windows sucks, though. Just requires way too much upkeep or else it self-destructs quite rapidly.

 

[Ken]

Dude, maybe I misunderstand you, but Windows has been independant of DOS since 1998 or so.

I do think Windows sucks, though. Just requires way too much upkeep or else it self-destructs quite rapidly.

Windows doesn't suck. Of course it requires upkeep. Users demand more and more, and web sites continue to develop applications which take advantage of the client-side processing power.

Windows has to be kept-up to the constant evolution of the Internet.

 

[Ancestor]

Eh... I just get so sick of dealing with all the crap that you have to allow for with Windows. Don't get me wrong, on my PC I have SoundForge, ACID, ProTools, Vegas and a bunch of other stuff.

I love the integration of the programs, but I hate how much maintenance is required. My mac loads within 120 seconds EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Still, my buddy, who works on the city of Clearwater's network as admin, is able to produce some very smooth results for PC. I think it may be just a question of having the "know how".

 

[bostjan]

Windows doesn't suck. Of course it requires upkeep. Users demand more and more, and web sites continue to develop applications which take advantage of the client-side processing power.

Windows has to be kept-up to the constant evolution of the Internet.

I meant up-keep as in deletion of viruses and spyware, along with spending $$ on new anti-virus and anti-spyware to detect and delete said programs.

Anything that crashes as much as windows sucks. I'm not saying mac is much better. It costs more money, but you don't have to worry so much about picking up hijackers and crap. Windows certainly crushes mac for compatibility, but if there waqs no advantage in mac, it certainly wouldn't exist to this day.