Emmure -- "Speaker of the Dead" thread

[ThePinealGland]

Joey's POD tones destroy every Axe-FX tone I've ever heard on this forum. If you guys are that surprised, you should check out more of his work.

Born of Osiris was supposed to be working with Joey. If they had, this Emmure cd wouldn't have been recorded by him. They only got the chance after BOO canceled. It would have been nice to hear an album by a band I actually like produced by Joey instead of... Emmure...

 

[The Reverend]

Joey's POD tones destroy every Axe-FX tone I've ever heard on this forum. If you guys are that surprised, you should check out more of his work.

Born of Osiris was supposed to be working with Joey. If they had, this Emmure cd wouldn't have been recorded by him. They only got the chance after BOO canceled. It would have been nice to hear an album by a band I actually like produced by Joey instead of... Emmure...

More power to Emmure, then

 

[Gitte]

Bury Your Dead are also a great example of this style of music done well.

i cant wait for more bury your dead stuff by the way

 

[The Reverend]

i cant wait for more bury your dead stuff by the way

WE ALL. MAKE MISTAKES IN LIFE.



Do you happen to know who's going to be on vocals? Last I heard they had some Australian guy.

 

[xCaptainx]

wow that was a long time ago, haha. Crafter from I Killed The Prom Queen was on vocals for a few months and went back to Auzzie.

he currently sings in a band called Confession who play a similar style of mosh metal.

Myke Terry was the current vocalist the last I read (he's on the last two albums) but I just saw articles saying he might have been let go? No idea now, that band seems to have a revolving door for band members!

 

[MikeH]

I'm convinced that Bury Your Dead, For The Fallen Dreams, and Legend are all just the same bands with interchanging members.

 

[Gitte]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thats True!!

 

[The Reverend]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thats True!!

I can't complain.

 

[DGKarehere]

Damn....I hate Emmure but they did a good job at creating a dark atmosphere with that breakdown hahaha

I totally agree for the dark atmoshphere. It reminds me of GttG. I did'nt like Felony. Think The Respect Issue had some decent songs and GttG was like.. THE best album from them. so dark.

so stoked to listen to speakers of the dead

 

[Stealthdjentstic]

The production seems pretty cool, which is something I've always thought it cool about deathcore. However...

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[The Reverend]

The production seems pretty cool, which is something I've always thought it cool about deathcore. However...

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I personally prefer

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On a side note, if deathcore=metalcore crossed with death metal, is calling Emmure deathcore valid? I'm not hearing a lot of death metal in their stuff.

 

[Harry]

The production seems pretty cool, which is something I've always thought it cool about deathcore. However...

Really? There are plenty of deathcore records that don't sound all that great production wise
It's not any different to other genres, some stuff has crap production, some sounds fantastic.
The Born of Osiris stuff has always had pretty bad production.
Their first album sounded boxy and incredibly "fake", and the second album has virtually no bottom end what so ever.
I've only got one Veil of Maya album, "All Things Set Aside" and the production on that is pretty bad too.

 

[Marcus]

the second album has virtually no bottom end what so ever.

I really liked that guitar tone

But yeah I always figured that's just how they wanted the tone to sound and everything else on the album came out really nice (Now Arise sounds HUGE in my car)

 

[Harry]

I really liked that guitar tone

But yeah I always figured that's just how they wanted the tone to sound and everything else on the album came out really nice (Now Arise sounds HUGE in my car)

Well I consider a lot of the guitar tone to really be in the bass guitar too.
The thing with that production is that most of the elements actually sound fairly well done, but unless you've got a good bottom end, the entire thing is going to sound thin and weedy.

 

[Stealthdjentstic]

I personally prefer

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On a side note, if deathcore=metalcore crossed with death metal, is calling Emmure deathcore valid? I'm not hearing a lot of death metal in their stuff.

A fan of drop tunings I see

They're without a doubt deathcore.

Really? There are plenty of deathcore records that don't sound all that great production wise
It's not any different to other genres, some stuff has crap production, some sounds fantastic.
The Born of Osiris stuff has always had pretty bad production.
Their first album sounded boxy and incredibly "fake", and the second album has virtually no bottom end what so ever.
I've only got one Veil of Maya album, "All Things Set Aside" and the production on that is pretty bad too.

I think the production on most of the white chapel and suicide silence stuff is pretty good (can't listen to the stuff very long but regardless), but I just meant generally the production in deathcore is quite a bit better than death metal in general.

 

[The Reverend]

I think the production on most of the white chapel and suicide silence stuff is pretty good (can't listen to the stuff very long but regardless), but I just meant generally the production in deathcore is quite a bit better than death metal in general.

One of things I see people commenting a lot on is how deathcore lacks the raw edge of "real death metal". I'm not surprised that on a guitar forum, this isn't brought up often .

Does anyone have any insight on how labels decide who to produce albums with? Or is it the band's decision? I've noticed that on either debut albums or label-debut albums, the production is worse than any subsequent albums. This is certainly the case for Emmure, at least.

 

[Nats]

Won't!

 

[NaYoN]

For me, Ke$ha is better than this stuff. Not trolling, my actual legitimate opinion. Nice tone as many have said before me, but the music is awful to me.

Looking at what Joey Sturgis's list of albums that he produced, they all seem to be awful (I admit that I don't know of a few of the bands on that list), but they all have decent production. That's really a shame, I'd like to hear that kind of tome with some bands that I like as well.

Note: when I say awful, it's just my opinion. I don't like them. Feel free to like them, live and let live.

 

[Stealthdjentstic]

One of things I see people commenting a lot on is how deathcore lacks the raw edge of "real death metal". I'm not surprised that on a guitar forum, this isn't brought up often .

Does anyone have any insight on how labels decide who to produce albums with? Or is it the band's decision? I've noticed that on either debut albums or label-debut albums, the production is worse than any subsequent albums. This is certainly the case for Emmure, at least.

The more money a band is pulling in the more money a label will spend resources on them.

 

[DLG]

For me, Ke$ha is better than this stuff. Not trolling, my actual legitimate opinion. Nice tone as many have said before me, but the music is awful to me.

Looking at what Joey Sturgis's list of albums that he produced, they all seem to be awful (I admit that I don't know of a few of the bands on that list), but they all have decent production. That's really a shame, I'd like to hear that kind of tome with some bands that I like as well.

Note: when I say awful, it's just my opinion. I don't like them. Feel free to like them, live and let live.

this is the internet doggy, we don't like opinions here.