Emmure -- "Speaker of the Dead" thread

[Nats]

you

 

[The Reverend]

you

Let me finish this for you

BE MY BRIDE?
anotherdayanotherdayanotherdayanotherday

 

[lookralphsbak]

Sweet

 

[richcastle66]

Really? There are plenty of deathcore records that don't sound all that great production wise
It's not any different to other genres, some stuff has crap production, some sounds fantastic.
The Born of Osiris stuff has always had pretty bad production.
Their first album sounded boxy and incredibly "fake", and the second album has virtually no bottom end what so ever.
I've only got one Veil of Maya album, "All Things Set Aside" and the production on that is pretty bad too.

thats because it was their very first album, barely even produced. the tone on their newest album, [id], is awesome.

 

[BangandBreach]

That tone is bonecrushing.

 

[Blood Ghost]

I'm really digging the tone, and I may pick the album up. The only thing they do that really turns me off is that one chord:

f _|-----------|
c_|-----------|
g#|-----------|
d#|-----------|
A#|-----------|
F_|--0-0-0-0--|
A#|--1-1-1-1--|

They do have some really sick grooves, and I wanted so badly to like their older albums, but I always find myself skipping the track when I hear that chord. I dunno, there's just something I really dislike about it, it sounds displeasing to my ears. If this is kept to a minimum on the new record though, I'll buy it.

 

[GeoMantic]

I feel like I've heard this before. It may just be me though.

Seriously though, it's totally fine with me that people enjoy this stuff. I just don't understand it. I'm not even opposed to breakdowns thrown in songs (when done tastefully). One or two is fine, but I find it hard to get excited about more of the same.

One question though, does anyone know why they moved to sevenstrings? I'm not saying they need to use everyone one of the strings the entire song, but I can't understand when bands like Emmure and Carnifex move to 7, but still only seemingly utilize 3 or 4 of them.

I guess it is a good thing that 7 string players are getting more attention, I'm just afraid that it's starting to stereotype the instrument, similar to what happened with the whole nu-metal thing.

 

[NaYoN]

I feel like I've heard this before. It may just be me though.

Seriously though, it's totally fine with me that people enjoy this stuff. I just don't understand it. I'm not even opposed to breakdowns thrown in songs (when done tastefully). One or two is fine, but I find it hard to get excited about more of the same.

One question though, does anyone know why they moved to sevenstrings? I'm not saying they need to use everyone one of the strings the entire song, but I can't understand when bands like Emmure and Carnifex move to 7, but still only seemingly utilize 3 or 4 of them.

I guess it is a good thing that 7 string players are getting more attention, I'm just afraid that it's starting to stereotype the instrument, similar to what happened with the whole nu-metal thing.

2 possible reasons:

1- The "oh yeah I got seven strings!!!!" factor
2- Needing to play low notes but not having enough scale length on a six string guitar

So yeah, valid reasons I guess but I prefer the approach of Nevermore/ATB, more strings = more notes.

 

[GeoMantic]

2 possible reasons:

1- The "oh yeah I got seven strings!!!!" factor
2- Needing to play low notes but not having enough scale length on a six string guitar

So yeah, valid reasons I guess but I prefer the approach of Nevermore/ATB, more strings = more notes.

But in a lot of cases, the sevenstrings they are using still have a 25.5" scale length, and you can buy baritone scale 6's.

Whatever they prefer I guess

 

[Stealthdjentstic]

But in a lot of cases, the sevenstrings they are using still have a 25.5" scale length, and you can buy baritone scale 6's.

Whatever they prefer I guess

A lot of deathcore bands like to throw down harmonic minor leads over their breakdowns or chugging.

 

[Randy]

Whenever I do "chugga chugga chugga" rhythm parts, I sometimes add 5th fret harmonics on my higher strings to break it up some.

 

[xCaptainx]

Pretty sure they didnt 'move' to seven strings, their guitarist has been using 7 strings since 1998. The other guitarist uses a Jim Root tele!

You might as well say 'why dont they play in drop B' while you're at it, it's simply personal preference. The guy got into 7 strings through Fear Factory. Probably not unlike many others on this forum.

 

[Joose]

I don't think that chord will ever be at a minimum on any Emmure song, let alone an entire album lol.

I don't particularly dig the chord, but I love the way Emmure uses it. Same with Whitechapel, Caliban and Suicide Silence.

Plus, whatever tuning they're using... it makes the chord sound demonic.

 

[Nats]

Let me finish this for you

BE MY BRIDE?
anotherdayanotherdayanotherdayanotherday

So are we like, married now?

 

[DLG]

So yeah, valid reasons I guess but I prefer the approach of Nevermore/ATB, more strings = more notes.

don't agree about nevermore. the riffs were way more complex and busy when they were on six strings and tuned to Eb. The height of their complexity was PoE.

 

[Encephalon5]

I feel like I've heard this before. It may just be me though.

Seriously though, it's totally fine with me that people enjoy this stuff. I just don't understand it. I'm not even opposed to breakdowns thrown in songs (when done tastefully). One or two is fine, but I find it hard to get excited about more of the same.

One question though, does anyone know why they moved to sevenstrings? I'm not saying they need to use everyone one of the strings the entire song, but I can't understand when bands like Emmure and Carnifex move to 7, but still only seemingly utilize 3 or 4 of them.

I guess it is a good thing that 7 string players are getting more attention, I'm just afraid that it's starting to stereotype the instrument, similar to what happened with the whole nu-metal thing.

Go ahead Josh.. Keep bashing Carnifex.

 

[GeoMantic]

Go ahead Josh.. Keep bashing Carnifex.

They are literally the worst band I have ever heard live, and that's saying something considering all of the local bands in the area. I'm pretty sure the "hxc" fans ruined it for me when I got hit like 4 times before they even started playing anything. I almost made the mistake of seeing Emmure open for somebody, I don't remember what band I was going to see, but then I decided to just go outside.

I'm just not a fan of the scene that's involved with these bands in general. There are a few bands I can listen to and enjoy live, but this kind of stuff I seriously can't understand.

Just when it can't get any more bland and predictable, it somehow does.

That being said, it's probably something I'm not understanding, it's whatever.

 

[ugg im kyle]

they got one more album with victory.......then its major label time for them

Apparently Victory Records isn't a major label anymore, this thread proved that.....
(do some research)

I'm not a huge Emmure fan, the raving and ranting about this tone isn't a surprise. Their popularity is growing so they are getting a bigger budget for recording. I will agree it's starting to finally sound enjoyable to the ear. I personally think the clip defines what this album is going to be and every album before it. Let's see how this posts change when people in here get an It Leaked account.

 

[Duke318]

I don't understand how anyone over 17 years old can like Emmure.

 

[ugg im kyle]

I don't understand how anyone over 17 years old can like Emmure.