ERG necks to snap?

[8nexus8]

I've been looking alot for an 8 string guitar but with thin shred necks like 0.770" or even 0.750", but the problem is, due to lots of string tension they are very fragile and can snap, dino cazares explains this here,

the thinnest i saw is the rg2228, and probably the dean rc8 is also very thin but i dont want such a fragile guitar.
so what's the solution? using very dense wood like maple for the neck?
and btw does anyone know any 8 string or baritone scale guitar manufacturer that have thin necks?

 

[MaxOfMetal]

In all my years of working on guitars I've never seen a guitar or bass neck "snap" or even crack due to just string tension. As for breaking necks in general it's a LOT harder to do than it may seem.

Guitar necks, even super thin ones, are capable of supporting hundreds of pounds of force. Then factor in things like metal truss rods and support beams, as well as carbon fiber and you have necks that are super thin and extremely strong.

Typically, if a neck is to break it's going to be at the headstock/nut area after a large amount of force is leveraged on it.

 

[8nexus8]

well i he's mostly talking about touring musicians, i dont know how authentic this info is, so where can i get such a baritone or 8 string neck?

 

[-42-]

Typically, if a neck is to break it's going to be at the headstock/nut area after it's placed inside a UPS truck.

FTFY

 

[Underworld]

The custom 8 string I'm having built right now will be 18mm thick at nut (0.7087") and there should be no problem at all. With modern construction methods I don't know how a neck could break due to string tension alone.

 

[Stealthdjentstic]

Dont worry about it.

 

[simonXsludge]

the thinnest i saw is the rg2228, and probably the dean rc8 is also very thin but i dont want such a fragile guitar.

As mentioned by everyone before me, it's anything but likely that a guitar neck is gonna snap from the tension or that it'll easily snap at all. The Ibanez RG2228 neck features a titanium reinforcement, so its neck really is anything but fragile.

 

[8nexus8]

That's a relief, and exactly can I get an 8 or a baritone with thin shreddable necks?

 

[Isan]

Yeah, Jake Bowen and Alex Bois had the same profile as Dino on their LACS and the necks were very sensitive to temperature and string gauge changing..

but you cant get a a 17.5 mm neck on any stock model (all the way to the heel that is).
So I wouldn't worry much, and they use standard cases nothing fancy. Unless you abuse your guitar you wont break its neck.

 

[Dayn]

On my RG2228, if I rest the body on one knee and the neck on the other, the weight of the neck on my knee is enough for the neck or the bolt-on joint to 'bend' a bit so the strings detune just a slight bit. I can't remember if my other guitars have ever done the same with such a light touch.

But I can damn well say for sure that it's as solid as a rock despite it's thinness. Just don't apply extra pressure to the neck; the usual stuff you do when you're not trying to actively kill an instrument.

 

[fujitron]

i have no real experience but i'd say for a neck to snap it would take quite a bit of punishment... the 8 stringer i have has two fucking truss rods. that can't be easy to break!

anyway... what cazares said: just don't abuse it

 

[8nexus8]

and do any of you know where can i get a thin neck like 0.770" or 0.750" baritone or 8 string guitars?

 

[Underworld]

Custom, or shave it yourself down to your preference.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

and do any of you know where can i get a thin neck like 0.770" or 0.750" baritone or 8 string guitars?

Any legitimate custom shop should be able to make a neck exactly to your specs, within reason of course.

 

[Explorer]

And "within reason" includes you paying a reasonable amount for their time and design work, instead of expecting something which deviates from stock for less than stock prices....

 

[Jonisbrutal]

I've seen older ibanez rg necks with cracks, (and a few snaps) where the locking nut from the floyd rose bolts on. I have a 2000 Ibby RG470 (Japanese), and I'm always babying it trying not to crack the neck. But i've thrown that guitar on the ground during an argument at band practice and the neck didn't crack. So they're a lot tougher then I thought. it's about 19" thin at the 1st fret, and 21" at the 12th fret.

 

[DevinShidaker]

I've seen older ibanez rg necks with cracks, (and a few snaps) where the locking nut from the floyd rose bolts on. I have a 2000 Ibby RG470 (Japanese), and I'm always babying it trying not to crack the neck. But i've thrown that guitar on the ground during an argument at band practice and the neck didn't crack. So they're a lot tougher then I thought. it's about 19" thin at the 1st fret, and 21" at the 12th fret.

Those cracks come from people tightening the nut to the neck too much, they're pressure cracks.

 

[Jonisbrutal]

Those cracks come from people tightening the nut to the neck too much, they're pressure cracks.

Thanks! I've always thought it was from bumping the headstock on something.

 

[TemjinStrife]

Those cracks come from people tightening the nut to the neck too much, they're pressure cracks.

Yep. Those are also notorious weak points on those guitars though. Bonk it against the wall the wrong way, and bam. At least with a locking nut you'll stay in tune till you have to change strings!

 

[MTech]

I was with Dino for awhile at NAMM and we talked about this. He's not talking about from the strings, he specifically told me they will snap if the case has any flex in it at all hence he uses a bass sized roadcase. The issue with being too thin is they can twist/warp which he said That Rusty neck seems too thin to hold up on the road. His 7's are 17.5mm and the 8 is 19mm I believe he said.
Also most of the production ones including the model you listed is a maple neck but it's not neck thru let alone to the same quality as an LACS obviously.... Again really wish they'd make customs for the public as those are the only Ibanez I really do like (all around).