ESP Huge changes for 2013

[Galeus708]

I fugured this question best belongs here.
I was looking into possibl getting another esp horizon, either ntii or nt7.
I know the new changes for esp this year. However I found two overseas websites, one uk another japan i think, that sell the horizon in snow white which I think is rediculous looking.
Anyone in us ordered from uk store before...? What is shipping...and/or will they ship here? one place was here...but no option for us...ESP Horizon FR Snow White - Thomann UK Cyberstore

Thomann is a german website, so I'd assume stuff gets shipped from there.

This is a handy website for calculating duty, though you need to know the shipping cost as well to get an accurate calculation. Calculate your import duty in a few quick steps for free | DutyCalculator

This is of course, assuming that Thomann even ships there. You should contact them if you can't find anything on their website.

 

[Doomlord]

Thomann is a german website, so I'd assume stuff gets shipped from there.

This is a handy website for calculating duty, though you need to know the shipping cost as well to get an accurate calculation. Calculate your import duty in a few quick steps for free | DutyCalculator

This is of course, assuming that Thomann even ships there. You should contact them if you can't find anything on their website.

Thank you for posting a link to that calculator. I wish I had known about that before I got a customs bill for $320!

 

[guitarsatbmusic]

ESP Guitars: Elias Vilianen(Sonata Arctica) playing his new ESP/E-II Sig.model(
There's your E-II, thank you to the believers

 

[capoeiraesp]

Damn. Sorry Shano. I cut your grass over here. Thanks for sharing 1st!

 

[guitarsatbmusic]

Damn. Sorry Shano. I cut your grass over here. Thanks for sharing 1st!

Hehe, no matter. Have been waiting on the time I could actually speak, as you can imagine!

 

[Zado]

ESP Guitars: Elias Vilianen(Sonata Arctica) playing his new ESP/E-II Sig.model(
There's your E-II, thank you to the believers

so the E-II thing was just a silly rumor hu?

oh btw that pickguard is delicious

 

[jcar24]

sorry to bump an old thread but wanted some opinions...

if these rumors are true, do you used esp standard prices will increase in 2014?

growing up I idolized metallica and have always wanted a "real" esp (currently play ltds or prs se). It may be silly but I want it to say esp on the headstock. Been slowly saving for a horizon or m-2 ($1200-1500 range, new or used) with idea to purchase sometime in 2014 ..... Do I need to make the purchase sooner??

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

According to something I read, after they change the name to E-II, there will be a 20% price drop.

EDIT: here you go:

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/musikmesse-2013-big-changes-ahead-for-esp-573846

ESP Guitars is planning a major rebranding exercise in 2014. The company will be bringing its existing Standard series to a close, and calling the new guitars E-II. The new branding also brings with it approximately a 20 per cent drop in suggested retail pricing across the range, which retains - and builds on - the existing model line.

So, yeah, MSRP will be 20% less.

 

[Zado]

considering the prices increased lately,I guess it's just back to normality but they will proly be considered generous

 

[jcar24]

According to something I read, after they change the name to E-II, there will be a 20% price drop.

EDIT: here you go:

Musikmesse 2013: big changes ahead for ESP | MusicRadar



So, yeah, MSRP will be 20% less.

Sorry, my question wasn't clear. I don't want a E-II branded guitar. I want a guitar with the old ESP logo. I was asking, when E-II hits the market and old ESP logos are no longer available, will that make the used prices for old ESP standards go up?

 

[Vinchester]

E-II logo is hideous. I swear by the Standard Series

I hope they are still made by the same MIJ factory and crew

 

[Andromalia]

Sorry, my question wasn't clear. I don't want a E-II branded guitar. I want a guitar with the old ESP logo. I was asking, when E-II hits the market and old ESP logos are no longer available, will that make the used prices for old ESP standards go up?

Likely, but as there is a sizeable number of them out, it will likely be long term, not immediate skyrocketing prices.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

I hope they are still made by the same MIJ factory and crew

Why would they not be?

 

[Vinchester]

Why would they not be?

Reducing price means the cost will have to somehow go down too. I fear they might be cutting down on material quality when re-organizing the production line.

 

[1b4n3z]

My guess is the E-II prices will jump to about the same level as the Standards are now, after Standards are phased out for good. I don't see much sense in the current ESP line-up right now - there are now three MIJ ESP sub-brands competing each other. The LTD Elite costs almost as much as the E-II, without hardshell cases or equivalent hardware, and the Standards are exactly like the E-II but 250-300 euros more. My conclusion is, the E-II must go up in price quite a bit, and soon.

 

[Dudley]

Totally agree with you 1b4n3z, my advice is jump on the cheap E-II's while you can because they'll be a great deal. There's a few I'll be picking up soon hopefully

 

[Chrisjd]

Totally agree with you 1b4n3z, my advice is jump on the cheap E-II's while you can because they'll be a great deal. There's a few I'll be picking up soon hopefully

where can we buy these "E-II" guitars?

 

[Zado]

Am I the only one thinking that ESP increased prices on standard series just to decrease it later with E-II and let the people scream "WTF same quality but cheaper,killer deal!!!" ?

 

[KobyFit7]

So what actually is the new E-II series. Is It what theyre calling the new custom orders.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

So what actually is the new E-II series. Is It what theyre calling the new custom orders.

The old ESP Import series. It's the Standard series for everyone outside North America.