ESP NAMM 2020 thread

[c7spheres]

There you go

like i said please ignore my german commentary. i made this vid for a friend of mine who couldnt go to NAMM.

Thanks! Those are incredible. I really like that outer space paint on that V.

 

[JoeyJoJoJrShabadoo]

Love the new Black Metal additions and the Mirage Deluxe ‘87 may be in my future when they start coming up used...but damn them for not releasing this one:

Still waiting on the higher end models

Also, thanks for reminding how much I adored this song and album. That guitar is somethin special

 

[BlueTrident]

The new 8 strings that Steg uses are mental. They need to launch an E-II signature line because the only way you can get a better version of the SC-608 is to get a CS B8.

Also the new Nergal signature totally works for me now after seeing Behemoth with Slipknot recently.

 

[sunnyd88]

Yea, the guys going around at NAMM and taking them all are dealers, and the dealer markup for ESPs is crazy. I don't know what it's like on exhibition models, but if I had to extrapolate, they're probably paying about $5k for those $12-15k models.

But I'm just talking about here in the ESP shops. I've seen like 8 or so exhibitions, come in the next week, 3 are gone. Ask what happened, find out one dude from China just came in and grabbed them all.

Guitars that are that extravagant defy conventional commercial wisdom. I might think to myself, who wants a macbook studded with swarovski crystal? No one. No one has $100k or something to spend on something so stupid....and yet if I go searching...

Damn so then what does it actually cost for ESP to make an Original Series or Custom Shop guitar? How much does a dealer pay? I kinda already thought that markups were pretty crazy but I had no idea they were that crazy. Are the luthiers being paid in peanuts? Then again, I shouldn't be surprised. ESP went corporate a long long time ago.

 

[gunch]

Haven't been mega keeping up with deftones after gore kind of sucked but damn Stef looks like he lost some weight

 

[thejohnnewton]

"Then again, I shouldn't be surprised. ESP went corporate a long long time ago."

It's always been a for profit business just like every other guitar maker. Dealers are free to set their own prices.

 

[thejohnnewton]

It's an exhibition piece. Over the top build with an over the top price.

This isn't something meant to sell. It's to be photographed and shown off like an art piece.

The dealer who got it is The Axe Palace. I assure you he got it to sell it. He's in business not collecting. Now if the eventual buyer plays it or just displays it is a different question. Also have you confirmed the price with the dealer? If you're actually seriously interested contact them and discuss what they can do on price.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

The dealer who got it is The Axe Palace. I assure you he got it to sell it. He's in business not collecting. Now if the eventual buyer plays it or just displays it is a different question. Also have you confirmed the price with the dealer? If you're actually seriously interested contact them and discuss what they can do on price.

What I mean is, these are built sort of like halo cars. They're more about showing off what the Custom Shop can do, then simply selling.

Folks are going to post pictures and talk about these guitars for years, regardless of who buys it and when.

 

[thejohnnewton]

Is it just me or there is no updates at all to the EII range this year?

It's not just you. No change to the E-II line at the moment.

 

[thejohnnewton]

What I mean is, these are built sort of like halo cars. They're more about showing off what the Custom Shop can do, then simply selling.

Folks are going to post pictures and talk about these guitars for years, regardless of who buys it and when.

Absolutely.

 

[BlueTrident]

It's not just you. No change to the E-II line at the moment.

I read on the ESP instagram that the reason why there are no E-II releases so far is because they have a humongous backlog of orders they have to fill from last year. That same post said that they would release the new E-II models in July or sometime around then depending on when they are up to date with their back orders.

 

[thejohnnewton]

I read on the ESP instagram that the reason why there are no E-II releases so far is because they have a humongous backlog of orders they have to fill from last year. That same post said that they would release the new E-II models in July or sometime around then depending on when they are up to date with their back orders.

Yeah that came from Jeff Moore the US VP so probably reasonably reliable.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

So Summer NAMM it is.

 

[yiti]

just saw this E-II M-II Seven (Black with Red Binding) on the Big Boss JP E-II Page. https://bigboss.jp/store/products/detail/10797

 

[BusinessMan]

just saw this E-II M-II Seven (Black with Red Binding) on the Big Boss JP E-II Page. https://bigboss.jp/store/products/detail/10797

So Mr. Holt is now using 7 string strats. I can’t wait for the new exodus dj0nt album.

 

[Adieu]

Yea, the guys going around at NAMM and taking them all are dealers, and the dealer markup for ESPs is crazy. I don't know what it's like on exhibition models, but if I had to extrapolate, they're probably paying about $5k for those $12-15k models.

But I'm just talking about here in the ESP shops. I've seen like 8 or so exhibitions, come in the next week, 3 are gone. Ask what happened, find out one dude from China just came in and grabbed them all.

Guitars that are that extravagant defy conventional commercial wisdom. I might think to myself, who wants a macbook studded with swarovski crystal? No one. No one has $100k or something to spend on something so stupid....and yet if I go searching...

MacBook Swarovski? Lol

That's nothing. Try a whole entire base model 4 cylinder Mercedes C180 complete w/ fake AMG badges (AND the original lowend badging still there, too).... used to see one of those lurking by the 24h supermarket near my house a decade ago

Yep FULLY encrusted with the sparkly crystals. Nope not a sparkly wrap, actual stickon crystals, 100% coverage

 

[Dudley]

just saw this E-II M-II Seven (Black with Red Binding) on the Big Boss JP E-II Page. https://bigboss.jp/store/products/detail/10797

Saw this in Tokyo a few months back on holiday along with a couple of other E-II's that aren't in the lineup at the moment. Scratching my head trying to remember what else there was, might have to ask the missus if she can recall!

 

[rowsi]

Now, this is a bummer. At thomann the LTD M Black Metal WITH floyd is 739€ atm. However, the new LTD M Black Metal WITHOUT floyd is listed for 1099€. I find this, please excuse the expression, absolutely outrageous: The guitar has the exactly same specs, is (most likely) made at the same factory and only differs in one point: A hardtail bridge instead of a floyd. This is less routing work to be done and the Hipshot bridge is surely less expensive than the floyd.

The 739€ for the floyded guitar is nice, but 1099€ for the hardtail is just stupid. Sorry, had to vent a tad. Realy liked the hardtail version, but not for this money.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

Now, this is a bummer. At thomann the LTD M Black Metal WITH floyd is 739€ atm. However, the new LTD M Black Metal WITHOUT floyd is listed for 1099€. I find this, please excuse the expression, absolutely outrageous: The guitar has the exactly same specs, is (most likely) made at the same factory and only differs in one point: A hardtail bridge instead of a floyd. This is less routing work to be done and the Hipshot bridge is surely less expensive than the floyd.

The 739€ for the floyded guitar is nice, but 1099€ for the hardtail is just stupid. Sorry, had to vent a tad. Realy liked the hardtail version, but not for this money.

The MSRPs are the same, it's likely an inventory control measure (sale) to move the previous year's inventory.

Here, the difference is about $50 between the two, so there has to be something up with the Thomann price.

 

[Nightside]

Now, this is a bummer. At thomann the LTD M Black Metal WITH floyd is 739€ atm. However, the new LTD M Black Metal WITHOUT floyd is listed for 1099€. I find this, please excuse the expression, absolutely outrageous: The guitar has the exactly same specs, is (most likely) made at the same factory and only differs in one point: A hardtail bridge instead of a floyd. This is less routing work to be done and the Hipshot bridge is surely less expensive than the floyd.

The 739€ for the floyded guitar is nice, but 1099€ for the hardtail is just stupid. Sorry, had to vent a tad. Realy liked the hardtail version, but not for this money.

Thomann does this with a lot of shit. Their prices fluctuate like the stock market. They have guitars of the exact same models that cost 50 euros more for the white version over the black version.