edsped
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She sure does like her push-up bras.Shouldn't matter. But I'll leave you all with this.
https://www.google.com/search?clien...g&biw=1240&bih=674&sei=0Ab3T5KCFYn88gSoxMn-Bg
Thank me later. Courtney Cox is amazing.
She sure does like her push-up bras.Shouldn't matter. But I'll leave you all with this.
https://www.google.com/search?clien...g&biw=1240&bih=674&sei=0Ab3T5KCFYn88gSoxMn-Bg
Thank me later. Courtney Cox is amazing.
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This is the part that annoys me about some women in metal. This picture deliberately plays up the whole "OMG, I'm a cute hawt rebel metal chick!" aspect, and it's completely crass. Women seem to be afraid that, if they're not willing use their feminine wiles to market themselves, no one will pay attention to them. However, whenever I see something like this, it only serves to cast a shadow of doubt on their musical integrity, as far as I'm concerned.
Having said that, my favorite "woman in metal" would probably be Leilindel from the band Unexpect. She's supremely capable of both operatic cleans and harsh screams. Additionally, her vocals are used as one thread in the tapestry that is Unexpect's music, they don't focus on it simply because OMG FEMALE METAL SINGER!
Xaios, we're on good terms but I'm going to challenge this
On the first paragraph, I'd wager a bet that it's because women are in a near 100% male dominated area of music that is pretty excessive about its "tough guy" image or some values of traditional masculinity. Metal encapsulates anger, aggression, etc (and I'm talking about the image, I know lots of individual guys who like metal aren't stereotypical manly men of masculine man-ninnity who hail from Mantopia). and women in metal have to overcompensate to be taken even the least bit seriously. Then they're subjected to the commentary of guys who can only talk about how they find said metal girls attractive or not, often with little commentary about actual talent. The "metal chicks" I'm aware of often overdo the hell out of the leather, makeup, dyed hair, spikes, straps, boots, etc. whereas all a guy has to do to look "metal" is have on a band T-shirt and jeans.
But hey, sex does sell, but I don't think it's fair to in a sense blame women in metal for using their attractiveness to their advantage - my point is that's basically all they can do within this particular subculture. They're basically looked at as groupies, even the ones who are all "done up" to look "metal." The problem isn't necessarily even how they look as far as clothes go, surely women dressed "normally" or more conservatively (IE a band shirt and jeans) are still subject to the same bullshit commentary (OMGTH, a hawt girl in metulz! or She doesn't really like metal! What an attention whore!). Same thing goes for girls/women who post videos of them playing guitar/drums/whatever. Even the comments that do praise their talent or lack of it often also say "and I'd still bang her, too!" I guess at the end of the day there's a double standard.
So many "bands" use image or a gimmick to sell records or gain noteriety(which blows) and it's honestly kind of easy to do that with metal, so recruiting a female member is just a very easy way to do that. But claiming that all heavy bands with female members are just using her as a gimmick is totally bogus. Any band that's willing to do that would find another way to do it without a female member. Look at all the mall metal/"scene" garbage, that is 100% image/trend over music/art and those bands consist of mostly male members. Some stuff just sucks, regardless of the sex of the members of the band.
That wasn't strictly directed at you by any means and I know you didn't say "all", but a lot of the talk in this thread is definitely hinting at saying that MOST of it is gimmicky or even saying that women in heavy music have no other choice than to exploit the fact that they're women. I guess I just come from a different scene for the most part. I'm more a part of the "touring the basement/collective circuit and knowing your band is never really going to be a financial success", so I'm very opposed to any sort of gimmick/image/catch/lack of genuine passion, so I just think people are looking in the wrong places if they're finding so many gimmicky bands. Like I said, the band exploiting their female member would do that in some other way if that wasn't already their catch. I guess I just don't blame the women in these situations any more than I do the 4 other dudes in her band who probably recruited her in the first place. And I'm definitely not trying to sound pretentious or self-righteous, I mean, I even said I know the stuff I do and I'm into will never be super popular.Whoa there, kemosabe. At no point in time did I claim that "all" heavy bands with female members practiced this style of marketing. I said a greater portion. And while the sceneXcore image is equally as abhorrent, that's a different matter.
Meh, I don't think there really is a double standard per se. Just guys tend to like metal more than women.
How many ugly, truly successful male pop start can you think of?
People like to look at beautiful people. It's pretty much that simple.
I do not give a flying fuck about the gender of a person in a band. I listen to the music, and if I like it Yay.
My band actually has a female singer, but we didn't look for one, we just held auditions and it turns out the best singer whom showed up happened to be female.