BaconBeardman
BACON!
What wakjob said. Also there is a difference between interest in (maybe) new concepts and just cloning the s*** out of something.
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This. If it really is just an IP, then I'm not sure the ethics argument passes.Is that a real argument if it turns out that it really is just a TC Electronic Integrated Preamp, with fixed treble / bass settings?
Let`s stop talking about the ethics of the pedal-business and back to the question: what are we going to find at the end of the 33 rainbows?
pssh someone is gonna open up the 33 and clone it anyways, may as well post the gut shot so we can see what's in there. I still kind of want one but the price point is really high for what it does compared to my 808x (which from the videos I've seen isn't enough to warrant buying one).
yeah he's got some good hypemen working for him. Plus the fb group is just a giant circlejerk, it's even worse than the kiesel page's fanboys.Honestly I would have but it's gone. And the guy I sold it to sold
It faster than I did lol.
I could ask the next buyer.
TBH I totally would have. I'm actually appalled with Fortin right now. Not Mike himself persay but the pedal is over priced and over hyped IMO.
But the main thing is I posted that I was disappointed on their FB page and I was attacked by fanboys and then the negative feedback was deleted.
That's no way to run a business but hey, look at who he has working for him. Not surprised.
I'll never buy another Fortin product again after that.
Who has he got working for him?That's no way to run a business but hey, look at who he has working for him. Not surprised.
I'm curious what you didn't like about it. Or perhaps it was just that it didn't offer anything all that different from what you get from a tube screamer.Honestly I would have but it's gone. And the guy I sold it to sold it faster than I did lol.
So many people now do demos of analog gear using an Axe FX or Axe FX II as an "amp" + interface, and the thing sounds way too linear. At least to my ears, anyways. Like, the amp models might lighten up if you pick lighter, ie less gain, but it's still just as much compression and the same block of canned sound that doesn't seem to change much at all versus analog gear. That's what I'm hearing and how my ear is interpreting it in the demos anyways.that reminds me of the guy who owns and builds the Axe fx units. 90% of people bum the product and he laps it up. The second 1 guy is like "well no, actually this, this and this should have been better" the owner and his minions, literally run the guy out of town with burning torches and pitchforks.
I saw that myself on the Fractal forum.
There seems to be a cult following for Fortin that if anyone naysays against, they come out in full force.
If companies are open to praise, they should also be open to criticism.
I liked the look of this pedal alot, but having read through this page and from people who actually bought one, I dont see how I couldnt just buy the TC Electronic pedal its clearly based off, pair it with my Boss GE7 EQ, and between them 2, dial in the exact same sound?
The only thing I would miss is the channel switching but then Im using Kemper/Pod HD Pro, so dont need that anyway.
yeah i got that with the axe. To my ears the kemper gets closer to the real amp sound and i mainly bought one for convenience.So many people now do demos of analog gear using an Axe FX or Axe FX II as an "amp" + interface, and the thing sounds way too linear. At least to my ears, anyways. Like, the amp models might lighten up if you pick lighter, ie less gain, but it's still just as much compression and the same block of canned sound that doesn't seem to change much at all versus analog gear. That's what I'm hearing and how my ear is interpreting it in the demos anyways.
I hear somewhat similar with the Kemper, but if a pod is at one end of the spectrum, and a tube amp is on the other, the Kemper is at least a step closer to the tube amp than the Axe FX is. That said, I hate the name of the unit [Kemper] because it reminds me of a local burger place that used to be in town where you could get a bag of burgers.yeah i got that with the axe. To my ears the kemper gets closer to the real amp sound and i mainly bought one for convenience.
If money and storage was not an issue i would keep the kemper in the studio and still buy tube amps tbh.
that reminds me of the guy who owns and builds the Axe fx units. 90% of people bum the product and he laps it up. The second 1 guy is like "well no, actually this, this and this should have been better" the owner and his minions, literally run the guy out of town with burning torches and pitchforks.
I saw that myself on the Fractal forum.
There seems to be a cult following for Fortin that if anyone naysays against, they come out in full force.
If companies are open to praise, they should also be open to criticism.
I liked the look of this pedal alot, but having read through this page and from people who actually bought one, I dont see how I couldnt just buy the TC Electronic pedal its clearly based off, pair it with my Boss GE7 EQ, and between them 2, dial in the exact same sound?
The only thing I would miss is the channel switching but then Im using Kemper/Pod HD Pro, so dont need that anyway.
So many people now do demos of analog gear using an Axe FX or Axe FX II as an "amp" + interface, and the thing sounds way too linear. At least to my ears, anyways. Like, the amp models might lighten up if you pick lighter, ie less gain, but it's still just as much compression and the same block of canned sound that doesn't seem to change much at all versus analog gear. That's what I'm hearing and how my ear is interpreting it in the demos anyways.
this!No modelling options really do power amp modelling all that well. Some, like the pods, actually sound like it's just a preamp model into a cab sim.
it does absolutely exist.Modeler---->tube power amp or FX RETURN of tube head----->cab of one's choice. It's the best all around "compromise". There is just an unidentifiable "something" about tube power that still eludes most modelers. I don't know what exactly it is, and some folks would tell me it's a psycho-somatic deal that doesn't actually exist, and I might not even be able to identify "it" 100% of the time.....but if Eric Johnson can tell the difference between a Duracell and an Energizer in his pedals, dammit, I can tell there is "something" different running they tube power.......
it does absolutely exist.
You can hear and feel it.
recording? digital solutions are fantastic but they do miss certain aspects of a true tube setup.
getting back on topic.
Realistically could we just get the Spark booster and get pretty much in the ball park of this pedal?. (i heard the spark boost was a reissue integrated preamp?)
Who has he got working for him?
Pretty shitty that you were disappointed, voiced that, and it got deleted.
I'm curious what you didn't like about it. Or perhaps it was just that it didn't offer anything all that different from what you get from a tube screamer.