Fretting hand thumb placement

[Cannibalcricket]

I've poked around online trying to find the best way to place the thumb on the back of the neck. Some suggest the thumb should point towards the headstock while others place it in conjunction with the ring and middle finger. I figure its a matter of choice but I am experiencing minor pain in my thumb and index finger. My thumb lags as I go up and down the neck sometimes and I feel I am inadvertantly tensing up and straining my wrist. Tips? Tricks? Maybe some excercises to work this stubborn digit? Maybe just cut off my thumb and offer it as tribute?

 

[ArtDecade]

Unless you are playing a guitar with a Stephen's Extended Cutaway, you are probably going to find that your thumb will move to different parts of the neck as you progress up and down the neck. This is just the result of the neck joint combined with the cramping of the frets further up the board. If you are feeling strain, that is because you are gripping the neck too hard. You should only be holding down just enough to cause a clean note. I would suggest doing exercises where you do scales and runs as lightly as possible. Find the spot where the note goes from rattle to clean and focus on what that feels like - it is all you need. If you are tense, you are probably playing something that you are not quite ready to play at that speed. Slow it down and build it up with the light touch in mind. The thumb will move to accommodate where you are on the neck. It is okay if it moves around, but not when it starts to act as a vice.

 

[Cannibalcricket]

I would suggest doing exercises where you do scales and runs as lightly as possible. Find the spot where the note goes from rattle to clean and focus on what that feels like - it is all you need. If you are tense, you are probably playing something that you are not quite ready to play at that speed. Slow it down and build it up with the light touch in mind. The thumb will move to accommodate where you are on the neck. It is okay if it moves around, but not when it starts to act as a vice.

Thank you!! I never thought about gripping it too hard. I will definetly give this a try as soon as the pain goes away.

 

[Jacksonluvr636]

Thank you!! I never thought about gripping it too hard. I will definetly give this a try as soon as the pain goes away.

He's pretty much correct. Not that this is practical or that I would ever recommend it but technically you dont even need a thumb to play guitar. It's just kind of a guide for me that goes there naturally.

 

[Cannibalcricket]

He's pretty much correct. Not that this is practical or that I would ever recommend it but technically you dont even need a thumb to play guitar. It's just kind of a guide for me that goes there naturally.

So offer the thumb as tribute may not be a bad idea. I'm really going to try and relax and get a feel for how little effort it takes to make it sound right versus fretting too little and buzzing like operation.

 

[Jacksonluvr636]

So offer the thumb as tribute may not be a bad idea. I'm really going to try and relax and get a feel for how little effort it takes to make it sound right versus fretting too little and buzzing like operation.

It probably sounds weird but there are times where I play purposely without my thumb touching the back of the neck at all.

 

[Cannibalcricket]

It probably sounds weird but there are times where I play purposely without my thumb touching the back of the neck at all.

what purpose does this serve?

 

[Rubbishplayer]

Thank you!! I never thought about gripping it too hard. I will definetly give this a try as soon as the pain goes away.

I must profess that I often find it difficult to understand @ArtDecade let alone agree with him, but he's right on the money here. Tension is your enemy. This is golden advice.

If you need proof, try doing anything else (e.g. cooking, playing sports) while tensing all your muscles.

Tough, innit?

By contrast, if you look at real masters like Allan Holdsworth, you'll see his left hand is supremely relaxed.

 

[Jacksonluvr636]

what purpose does this serve?

Lol probably none whatsoever.

What if you lost your thumb? I think the first time I ever did it was when my thumb was tired from playing too long. Then I wanted to see if my other fingers were strong enough to do it so I started doing it more often.

It definitely isn't a benefit. It's harder to play like that. The only reason I mentioned it was in conjunction with the other reply. I don't rely on my thumb I guess.

Obviously everyone is going to use theirs, it's ridiculous not to but for me the thumb is more of a guide. I usually have it dead center of wherever I'm playing and use my wrist to reach longer stretches with my little sausage fingers.

 

[Cannibalcricket]

Lol probably none whatsoever.

What if you lost your thumb?

Good enough. There is no spoon. There is no thumb.

 

[Cannibalcricket]

I must profess that I often find it difficult to understand @ArtDecade let alone agree with him, but he's right on the money here. Tension is your enemy. This is golden advice.

If you need proof, try doing anything else (e.g. cooking, playing sports) while tensing all your muscles.

Tough, innit?

By contrast, if you look at real masters like Allan Holdsworth, you'll see his left hand is supremely relaxed.

I get it to the simplest extent. It's almost a dentist chair thing. I was relaxed until the scrapping starts. I guess when I get into it I start liquid but sand bag up real quick.

 

[TheBloodstained]

For me personally, the less I think about thumb placement, the easier it is for it to find it's natural comfortable position for each chord/position. I always strain more when I pay too much attention to finger/hand placement.

 

[Rubbishplayer]

I'm not gonna be thinking about thumb placement for a while - just sliced the side of my left thumb's first joint to the bone....

 

[Cannibalcricket]

I'm not gonna be thinking about thumb placement for a while - just sliced the side of my left thumb's first joint to the bone....

Ouch. How did you pull that off?

 

[Rubbishplayer]

Ouch. How did you pull that off?

With a bread knife.

 

[Cannibalcricket]

With a bread knife.

Did you show that bagette who's boss?

 

[Rubbishplayer]

Did you show that bagette who's boss?

Not really...

 

[Cannibalcricket]

Not really...

Bagette wins...Flawless victory

 

[Rubbishplayer]

Bagette wins...Flawless victory

It wasn't a bagette.

Why does eveyone assume utensils are used for their correct purpose?



P.S: The only worthwhile line in the entire movie.

 

[Cannibalcricket]

It wasn't a bagette.

I just had imagies of bloody crutons and day old bread. I threaten my kids with that line a lot. My son looked at me crazy and asked the same thing. A spoon? Because it'll hurt more you twit! Nothing like bringing a butterknife to an axe fight. Did they "keep the stitches small?"