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So Paramore is a Christian band. Huh.
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Same here, but music is a "package deal" for a lotta people. If they thought their favorite band was a "real band" that ground it out from the bottom up to get where they are, only to find out the singer (and only the singer) was signed to a major label before anything of substance even existed and the purpose of their existence was "sell, sell, sell"... that could impact their desire to continue listening. YMMV
paramore was never worth 2 shits any way. but they did give us a good thread to talk about.
So from what im gathering these guys were for lack of a better word "hired guns". In that position I'd act like a hired gun, treat it like a business and do my job until I could get another one. At the end of the day paramore are at the point where its a brand name and she's the face of the brand, like it or not thats the way it works and that's the reason these guys were getting paid. The music business is a horrible, corrupt business and if you want to make money you should be prepared to shut up and do your job. Just my opinion anyway.
So from what im gathering these guys were for lack of a better word "hired guns". In that position I'd act like a hired gun, treat it like a business and do my job until I could get another one. At the end of the day paramore are at the point where its a brand name and she's the face of the brand, like it or not thats the way it works and that's the reason these guys were getting paid. The music business is a horrible, corrupt business and if you want to make money you should be prepared to shut up and do your job. Just my opinion anyway.
From my understanding of the situation, the brothers essentially founded the band. Had it not been for them jamming in their basement, Paramore would never have started. Instead it'd be 'Hayley Williams and the Guys' or maybe something more Christ-like. Ha.
If a band that I started got HUGE, and I started getting treated like some dude they just hired, I'd be pissed. It's not like the label handed those guys sheet music and said, "play this live". They, along with the others, created that music. It's as much theirs as it is anyone elses.
I agree with you fully on this. While I give them props for starting the band and I do understand their frustration with wanting to be given more credit, at the same time they are too young to understand that this is a job, and they are extremely fortunate to be making millions by playing on stage. They've never had real jobs and don't understand how lucky they were. they'll realize it later, and regret it. Real world's gonna bite them in the ass!
But they wouldn't have made their money if it wasn't marketed towards her. Pure and simple, they got big and left their own band. If they'd formed and gone about things properly and got management themselves maybe things would be different but essentially they were handed a golden egg in the form of hayley williams. I mean fuck it, for that kind of money I'd write the music and play backstage where no-one could see me.
Why should they be treated like second class hired help when they formed the band and write the music? Yes they are VERY fortunate for what they have, but at the same time i bet they have earned FAR less than Haley all because of pushy parents and labels.
If anything i can see them starting another band and getting just as much exposure.
Why should they be treated like second class hired help when they formed the band and write the music? Yes they are VERY fortunate for what they have, but at the same time i bet they have earned FAR less than Haley all because of pushy parents and labels.
If anything i can see them starting another band and getting just as much exposure.
I'm honestly not so sure. The appeal of Paramore isn't 100% Hayley Williams. It is for us nasty guys, but I can't think of many hetero girls going crazy for her. It's not Jonny Craig from Chiodos or Oli Sykes (that fag) from BMTH where girls go nuts for the cute guy in a band.
I would very much rather get credit for making great music. If these guys really just wanted to make money writing music, they could get jobs as songwriters. They wouldn't have to tour, and be away from their families, and they'd still be gettin' paid.
If you just wanna make money off music, start writing beats and selling them to wannabe Houston rappers
And writing beats that actually make you money is NOWHERE near as easy as you make it out to be, crafting pop music and writing tracks that will make you millions is probably more difficult than writing a mathcore/djent/death metal song. The production is second to none, you have to place things in the right place so the hooks drop appropriatly and the right amount of times. I dont really like the squeaky clean pop, off the shelf chart music but I appreciate that it's some very well written polished music that is a lot harder than just "making a beat".
I dunno, I've always found it easier to write simplistic and poppy music in 4/4 than off-the-wall mathcore in 19/32 with two highly syncopated guitars, a keyboard lead, and in-time vocals