Heavy Metal Soap Opera (The Mike Portnoy vs. Dream Theater Saga)

[SD83]

Here's hoping that MP was who was directing Dream Theater's attempts at being heavier that now

he can do a solo record full with songs like "The dark eternal night"...
To be honest, the songs/parts on the last records which I loved the most were the heavy ones (Dark eternal night, the blast beat part in A nightmare to remember, etc). I'm just not that much into their softer side I guess... so if (and to me, it looks like that) MP was kinda the heavy part of DT, well, I guess I will be even less interested in the new record than I was in the current one. In fact, I'm more interested in what Mike will come up with than in who will replace him in DT.
EDIT: I don't know much about who wrote which lyrics, but I do like the ones in "Constant motion". And I don't mind his vocal contributions to "The dark eternal night" either, but if he'd continue to make music and could get a decent singer for the heavy parts... oh yeah!

 

[flamingfishman]

no mike = more JP and JR input yes? im not really looking forward to that so much... while i love petrucci's stuff, the material on the later DT albums have been more wanky than anything else... and rudess, while being amazing on the keys has never really struck me with anything after 6DOIT. maybe more myung? that would be pretty cool, he's the one one who wrote hell's kitchen wasn't he?

 

[Mordacain]

no mike = more JP and JR input yes? im not really looking forward to that so much... while i love petrucci's stuff, the material on the later DT albums have been more wanky than anything else... and rudess, while being amazing on the keys has never really struck me with anything after 6DOIT. maybe more myung? that would be pretty cool, he's the one one who wrote hell's kitchen wasn't he?

I would love to hear more Myung (even just raising his level in the mix. And I agree Petrucci's contributions solo-wise are wanky, but I not sure if that was him or Portnoy's suggestion as producer. If you listen to Rudess' solo albums there is a ton of invention and when Petrucci and Rudess play off of each other, there is a lot more interesting stuff going on IMO. Of course I'm writing this while listening to "An evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess" so I'm hearing what's possible...

 

[JaeSwift]

in other shocking news:

Joey Jordison now joins Dream Theater as MP's replacement!

 

[jerome snail]

the material on the later DT albums have been more wanky than anything else...

This is not quite true regarding the last album IMO.

 

[flamingfishman]

I would love to hear more Myung (even just raising his level in the mix. And I agree Petrucci's contributions solo-wise are wanky, but I not sure if that was him or Portnoy's suggestion as producer. If you listen to Rudess' solo albums there is a ton of invention and when Petrucci and Rudess play off of each other, there is a lot more interesting stuff going on IMO. Of course I'm writing this while listening to "An evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess" so I'm hearing what's possible...

ok yea, the petrucci/rudess album is brilliant, i love that one to bits =D but as for just plain DT stuff, rudess just seems to be trying to find new weird sounds on his keys more than anything else.

 

[Mordacain]

ok yea, the petrucci/rudess album is brilliant, i love that one to bits =D but as for just plain DT stuff, rudess just seems to be trying to find new weird sounds on his keys more than anything else.

To each their own..I've always been more into progressive than metal so it makes a little more sense for me to dig Rudess. I think his contributions were lacking on the latter (read: heavier) albums because the band (read: MP as producer) tried to shoe-horn him into this more metal backing position. His contributions to Metropolis PT 2 and LTE are phenomenal by comparison.

 

[boni]

Chris Pennie is going to replace Mike Portnoy. True story.

 

[drmosh]

Chris Pennie is going to replace Mike Portnoy. True story.

That would be awesome

 

[Sang-Drax]

I can't say I'm sad. Now there's a chance I'll be seeing one of my favorite drummers in a band I actually like

 

[C2Aye]

Reading that statement, I kind of get the feeling that maybe Portnoy should have taken a step back in terms of controlling the band. That way, he maybe wouldn't have gotten burnt out and everything. I mean, there are five of them so duties could be split between all of them.

Or they should have let someone else do it. I vote Myung.

 

[Mordacain]

Reading that statement, I kind of get the feeling that maybe Portnoy should have taken a step back in terms of controlling the band. That way, he maybe wouldn't have gotten burnt out and everything. I mean, there are five of them so duties could be split between all of them.

Or they should have let someone else do it. I vote Myung.

+1 Myung could do great things I think.

To be quite frank, I think Portnoy was as controlling of the band as a way of battling his alcoholism. Obviously that's just an opinion. The reason I think that as I have known quite a few recovering alcoholics and they've all been very controlling after starting recovery. Prior to starting recovery they were not very controlling by nature (at least not publicly). In particular the ones that have gone through AA and 12 step programs exhibited more of this behavior. Just an observation and my own opinion...

 

[heineken_fretwalker]

I can't say I'm sad. Now there's a chance I'll be seeing one of my favorite drummers in a band I actually like

Man I couldn't possibly agree more.

 

[Riffer]

The other SE Inspector and I are listenting to Liquid Tension Experiment all day today in Mikes honor

 

[nolow]

For a while now I've been hearing how people want more "Myung", and I believe that it was MP that kinda told JM to back off a little in terms of writing lyrics, maybe we will get what we have been wishing for.

 

[Mordacain]

For a while now I've been hearing how people want more "Myung", and I believe that it was MP that kinda told JM to back off a littlein terms of writing lyrics, maybe we will get what we wished for.

Here's hoping

Of course part me knows this positive conjecture is a way of looking on the bright side, but its better than brooding on it.

 

[Hemi-Powered Drone]

I just thought of something, maybe Portnoy will, if he goes with A7X, make them proggy, eventually fusing A7X's style with that of DT!

They'll be Dream Sevenfold!

 

[The Honorable]

in other news, black is white, up is down, God is Satan, and Cannibal corpse released an album of smooth Jazz.

best post in this topic

 

[TheDivineWing22]

I would like to see them pick up Aquiles Priester. I think he would fit decently, or maybe the old Quo Vadis drummer who pretty much worshipped Mike Portnoy.

 

[Mordacain]

I just thought of something, maybe Portnoy will, if he goes with A7X, make them proggy, eventually fusing A7X's style with that of DT!

They'll be Dream Sevenfold!

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit