How good is an Evertune actually?

[nightsprinter]

I agree completely with the couple of comments metropolis has offered up. Bends do feel and respond a bit differently (even when set up to bend perfectly) and I find there to be less sustain in general, although videos have been made which claim to debunk it.

 

[Nightside]

Evertune is making up problems so they can sell you their solution. There is nothing it claims to cure that can't be cured with proper strings and good technique.

The only guitars I've ever encountered that held tuning perfectly were neck through body Esps with OFR. I had an Edwards E-AL-128 Arrowhead sent to me from Japan from Meestursparkle while I was on deployment. It was delivered to my friend's house in the nasty humid land of Missouri where it sat for a year in it's gigbag in his uninsulated backyard garden shed until I came to get it. The frets and hardware had begun to tarnish from humidity but it was still perfectly in tune. I had a custom shop KH4 that I only needed to tune when I changed strings.

The bolt on Esps were really good but not that perfect. They would need a fine tune here or there with heavy bar use.

 

[Screamingdaisy]

The "staying in tune perfectly" thing always bugged me in a recording context because I thought the little slight out-of-tune nuances in multi-track guitar tracks is what helps give it that big, wide sound. I can see the use live, but recording...eh?

IMO, the sound of a guitar going sharp is the the sound of guitar. It's been like that since the dawn of recorded guitar.

 

[nightsprinter]

Where evertune works well for me is in that my house has wild climate swings daily because of how the sun hits it so when I get a riff idea in my head, I can pull an ET guitar off the wall and immediately try it out and know it will sound like it should, as opposed to finding out the G string is flat or a couple strings are out enough to make it sound weird because if I get distracted by looking for a tuner and tuning it up, I might blank on the melody or thought in my head.

 

[Crash Dandicoot]

On the topic of nut sauce, please don't waste your money on guitar-specific shit. I use this to great success for half the price, it's a substantial amount more actual product and it lasts for-bloody-ever.

IIRC Tom Anderson uses either the same stuff or something similar. If you're hung up on nut sauce specifically, I believe this is the original stuff that gets rebranded with a silly high mark-up.

 

[Sacha]

To me, Evertune is one of the very few actual game-changing inventions in guitar technology since like the 70s or whatever. You'll see they are pretty popular with a lot of players / producers that record metal at a high level in the modern 'polished' styles. Because getting guitars perfectly in tune when recording is painstakingly difficult and annoying af. Yes there are some trade-offs, I wouldn't want it to be my ONLY guitar, but for recording rhythms in that style they are indispensable, to me.

 

[Nightside]

On the topic of nut sauce, please don't waste your money on guitar-specific shit. I use this to great success for half the price, it's a substantial amount more actual product and it lasts for-bloody-ever.

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IIRC Tom Anderson uses either the same stuff or something similar. If you're hung up on nut sauce specifically, I believe this is the original stuff that gets rebranded with a silly high mark-up.

The army gave me probably a lifetime's supply of CLP.

 

[Riverview]

Floyd > Evertune > Hardtail for tuning stability

 

[Narzog]

On hard tails, are the ones where the string goes through the body and comes out and then goes over the tiny bridge worse for stability than ones that dont? Sorry not sure the name of these. But my thought is, could it be similar to the string going over the nut.

To me, Evertune is one of the very few actual game-changing inventions in guitar technology since like the 70s or whatever. You'll see they are pretty popular with a lot of players / producers that record metal at a high level in the modern 'polished' styles. Because getting guitars perfectly in tune when recording is painstakingly difficult and annoying af. Yes there are some trade-offs, I wouldn't want it to be my ONLY guitar, but for recording rhythms in that style they are indispensable, to me.

I've noticed since looking at Evertunes that a lot of bands and people I listen to actually have Evertunes. Which is what got me thinking that if they are using them to record their best stuff, it could help my bad recordings be a bit better lmao.

 

[Gator]

Floyd > Evertune > Hardtail for tuning stability

I would completely disagree.

Specifically speaking the evertune keeps tuning by maintaining specific tension on the string. So that means micro changes in the string itself cannot really effect the tuning as if the evertune is in position two it will always keep the same tension ie same tuning per string.

Where a Floyd rose or any double locking tuner is based on the tension of every string. So changes in one string can make the others out of tune and vice versa. Which can happen even when it’s locked. Obviously not dramatically so much but you will at some point need to retune. More so if you are recording.

That being said I’m not going to say it’s the be all end all thing. It feels a bit different to play from any other bridge, bends themselves are probably the weirdest thing to get used to. However as others said it’s amazing for recording, but also live as no need to tune in front of the audience. Plus if the worst thing happens and a string breaks, you can change it immediately with only needing to get it back up to tension.

That being said I find it the best for extended range or really low tension drop tuning.

 

[RevDrucifer]

I love it.

Seeing a lot of the dismissal posts makes it evident that people either had one and never learned how to set it up properly (even if they think they did) or they didn’t use it in a setting where it shows it’s worth.

You can set an Evertune up to still bend and respond like a regular guitar. If someone says “bending feels weird”, it’s because they were between zones.

It IS possible to string it, tune it up, put it in the correct zone and then have it slip between zones, which is what I’m assuming is happening with a lot of people. The strings still stretch, you just won’t hear them go out of tune as it happens because the Evertune is Evertuning, so it just slips between zones. Usually a half turn of the tuning machine puts it back.

The Evertune comes with it’s own variety of “Strat trems don’t stay in tune”, “Floyds are a nightmare to setup”, “G-string on a Les Paul always goes out of tune” quips, all can be true if you don’t put the time into learning what you’re working with.

I’ll certainly have more guitars equipped with them.

 

[Rubbishplayer]

On the topic of nut sauce, please don't waste your money on guitar-specific shit. I use this to great success for half the price, it's a substantial amount more actual product and it lasts for-bloody-ever.

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IIRC Tom Anderson uses either the same stuff or something similar. If you're hung up on nut sauce specifically, I believe this is the original stuff that gets rebranded with a silly high mark-up.

That's a big plus one. Same for fretboard oil. One bottle of lemon oil is all you need for all the fretboards of all the guitars you have and will ever own.

 

[Gator]

You can set an Evertune up to still bend and respond like a regular guitar. If someone says “bending feels weird”, it’s because they were between zones.

I should put the caveat that bending feels weird at first, but similar to when you first learn to bend. There’s just a little uptick before the bend happens but after playing on one it does become second nature.

Of course it also depends on how you set it up to bend because you do have some leeway.

Long story short, yes they’re cool. Don’t get the hate.

 

[oversteve]

-Evertune is best for tuning stability
-floyd's also have amazing tuning stability

Floyds really have amazing tuning stability and evertune is essentially same system as a trem with an individual spring on each saddle so there's no contradiction here. Evertune is easier to setup without affecting other strings. But there are some issues. Since the mass of a separate saddle is less then of the whole bridge the sustain is somewhat dampened compared to other bridges. Bends might feel a bit strange and somewhat 'delayed' at first and might require getting used to - when bending first you essentially stretch the spring holding the saddle and only then when there's no more wiggle room the string starts stretching. And one really annoying thing - you might be locked into some exact string gauges for this or that tuning because of a small adjustment range of a saddle when it works as intended, if you take too light or too heavy strings for some tuning it will simply turn into a regular hardtail bridge.

 

[STRHelvete]

Evertune is making up problems so they can sell you their solution. There is nothing it claims to cure that can't be cured with proper strings and good technique.
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Yeah I kinda agree with this. They're selling a solution to a problem that's not that big a deal in most applications. I'm sure they're amazing for touring guitarists and whatnot but other than that? Meh.

If your guitar is so out of tune you can't record then that's an issue with the guitar that needs looking into. Maybe it's just me but this "modern metal requires super clarity, absolute perfection and the utmost precision" shit irks the living fuck out of me and it's probably a good reason most of it sounds like synthetic ultra processed shit.

It takes less than a minute to tune a damn guitar if it's out of tune and unless you're jackhammering the thing it isn't likely to go wildly out of tune between takes and if it does then that guitar needs to see a tech. I do nothing but record..often times I use multiple guitars and have forgotten to check the tuning for the second one, recorded, and it was just fine. You're not going to die if your guitar is a little out of tune, you just retune it. Your masterpiece of a song isn't going to suffer. It won't be the reason your album doesn't go triple platinum and when has anyone ever heard a non guitarist go "This song would have been amazing if the second guitarist checked his tuning"?

This is like when everyone NEEDED stainless steel frets despite the fact that most of them don't even touch their guitars enough or own them long enough to ever have to worry about fret wear.

Yes, Evertunes have their uses but I really think guitarists obsess about the stupidest shit instead of just playing their damn guitars and trying to be better.

Get an Evertune equipped guitar if you really want one and try it out. Just know that Evertunes are a new thing yet somehow humanity has managed to struggle along just fine before its invention. It CAN be done, Evertunes are just a tool to help make things easier for certain applications.

 

[Nightside]

Maybe it's just me but this "modern metal requires super clarity, absolute perfection and the utmost precision" shit irks the living fuck out of me and it's probably a good reason most of it sounds like synthetic ultra processed shit.

Yes. One of the big reasons I don't get into new metal is they all sound so clean and polished and perfectly produced like a Britney Spears album. The great thing about old metal was most of them had their own sound. Maybe the tones were shit but you could tell what band you were listening to.

 

[RevDrucifer]

Well shit, glad I read the last few posts, now I can just go back to playing guitars made in the 50’s because they didn’t have any issues making music with guitars then so there’s no absolutely no reason to use anything after that era.

I did have concerns that the bridge of my guitar was making all my music sound like every other modern metal band.

I also tend to forget that I need to focus more on the things that will sell millions of albums, instead of just writing/recording music I enjoy and having preferences with how I record it.

I should put the caveat that bending feels weird at first, but similar to when you first learn to bend. There’s just a little uptick before the bend happens but after playing on one it does become second nature.

Sure, when it’s between zones and not actually set up the way it’s intended to be.

 

[Nightside]

Well shit, glad I read the last few posts, now I can just go back to playing guitars made in the 50’s because they didn’t have any issues making music with guitars then so there’s no absolutely no reason to use anything after that era.

I did have concerns that the bridge of my guitar was making all my music sound like every other modern metal band.

I also tend to forget that I need to focus more on the things that will sell millions of albums, instead of just writing/recording music I enjoy and having preferences with how I record it.



Sure, when it’s between zones and not actually set up the way it’s intended to be.

Nah. 50s guitars still weren't there yet. 87 was when guitar design piqued.

 

[STRHelvete]

Well shit, glad I read the last few posts, now I can just go back to playing guitars made in the 50’s because they didn’t have any issues making music with guitars then so there’s no absolutely no reason to use anything after that era.

I did have concerns that the bridge of my guitar was making all my music sound like every other modern metal band.

I also tend to forget that I need to focus more on the things that will sell millions of albums, instead of just writing/recording music I enjoy and having preferences with how I record it.

You sound bothered. Eat a Snickers

 

[Gator]

Sure, when it’s between zones and not actually set up the way it’s intended to be.

I just want to clarify for not spreading false information. The manual gives three different versions of setups for bending. Fast bends which yes feels like a normal guitar, but if you’re down tuning or playing hard you will lose the intonation and tuning stability in this mode.

To counter that they suggest their fast bend with maximum intonation which doesn’t bend as fast. I should explain this is where I keep my 8 string at because of being in drop e makes the low string have very low tension and would be an issue in the first setting

Then there’s no bend setting

Plus you can set it anywhere in between. None of these are wrong, it is made to be adjusted to taste.

Check out the manual: https://www.evertune.com/manuals/pdf/Evertune__UserManual04.pdf

Once again it’s a cool tool. Also anyone can use anything they want. If you record well with out one then that’s super awesome! If you like it great! There’s not really a competition with guitar specs. But I’d just rather everyone have all the facts to make their own choices.