Jakke
Pretty wisdomous
BBC Latin America
Say what you want about him, but I am going to miss his crazy conspiracy theories..
Say what you want about him, but I am going to miss his crazy conspiracy theories..
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While I wasn't completely pro-Chavez, I was never really bought all the negative propaganda that the Spanish corporate media did against him. He was a rather simple men, legitimately looking to empower the most marginalized sectors of Venezuelan society.
Nobody is perfect. RIP Chavez.
I hope the people of Venezuela can finally find a path to democratic socialism.
I really wish I knew more about the political history of the world south of the US. I know a bit of Mexican history but pretty much nothing else. I've read a little bit of Chomsky and he reports on clandestine US government-backed efforts to "manipulate" South American governments ostensibly so they may be more in line with US interests but that's about it.
It seems as though a lot of actual leftist leaders seem to swing to the dictatorial side. I wonder if that's out of some perceived necessity on their part; they can't leave the efficacy of their agendas completely up to the people because leftist governments are pretty rare in the world? Like they're afraid their cause will fail unless they have almost total control over it? I dunno. I'm not saying that all leftist leaders are doomed or predisposed to become dictators. Just talking out of my ass here.
Funny how all the native Venezuelans in this thread have all moved away from their country to the likes of white europe and canada.
As perhaps some of you know, I'm from Venezuela, and lived there most of my life (though I'm not sure most of you would remember me mentioning that on other threads). I'm not going to engage in discussion about this publicly with anyone (I hope this to be the only comment I make on this thread. Shoot me a PM if you're interested in my personal opinion, and, if I gather the strength and the willingness to, I'll answer as best as I can. It's not an easy topic for me to talk about). However, what I AM going to do, is I'm going to try to see what is the general consensus in a forum whose members I regard highly. I am very curious to see what people have to say.
And, because I believe that stating something like that without giving at least an overview of what I think on the matter, I'm going to say that I am quite glad this happened. I'm glad to see that the source of so many people's suffering is gone, even though I wish it had happened differently. At the same time, that's not to say that it ends here, with his passing away. I'm scared (and very dangerously curious) to see what will happen next... his legacy is extremely strong. A whole generation of followers, born and raised "revolutionary." My single biggest wish is that a shitstorm doesn't ensue on the streets... things are horrible enough as they are.
Agreed. I do not care for his authoritarian means of governance (though compared to other Latin American rulers that have been ex-military men, he was an angel lol) but he had a tremendous impact for latin america in general. his economic policies have given more independence to central and south american countries from American energy interests and fostered a deeper sense of solidarity between those countries. obviously, Chavez personally can't be responsible for all that, but I think symbolically, he was a strong leader for many people who saw him as a barrier between their way of life and "american neo-colonialism" through globalization and unregulated free markets
It'll be interesting to see what happens when Castro dies (I know he's not in power, but he is still a powerful symbol in latin america)