I think Strandbergs suck

[Ray-T]

I've got something rigid and dense I want to show you for 9.99 per month on my OF.

This is not the thread to write about your dildo.

 

[Ray-T]

I didn't really believe any of that more mass=more sustain nonsense either until I got a Gibson LP. That guitar can hold a note for almost ever, it's wild. I'm still not committing to an opinion because I really don't give a shit and I don't know why anyone would. Why the fuck do you need your guitar to sustain a note for 45 seconds? What purpose does that serve?

If I was in a guitar center and some dude was just holding a g note on a $7,000 Les Paul and his terrible tube amp treble tone all proud of himself I'd have to resist the urge to unplug his amp.

I just remembered how Periphery at some point used like 3 noise gates to make sure their guitars don't sustain. And also played Strandberg (before other companies with a big advertisement budget came to them).

 

[ArtDecade]

This is not the thread to write about your dildo.

Every thread is about my dildo.

 

[Randy]

Follower of Strandberg going back to when Ola was just blog posting trem designs, the prototype that was cut out of an actual strat and eventually the open licensing for the design.

Lots of cool stuff with this brand, though I think it eventually got a little stale. I kind of like an avante garde brand to stay unique in its offering and make the end user come to their vision rather than the other way around. At some point Strandberg became the same familiar silhouette with dozens of different variations in features in step with what you've been able to get from other brands for 70 years. Feels like a standard contour neck, fixed scale model with a head on it is just around the corner.

 

[Surveyor 777]

Yeah that sums it up pretty well, and what keeps me coming back in circles still considering it. If you want a strandberg, only a strandberg is doing what strandberg is doing. Kind of the last frontier of actual innovation in guitar design to date

I wish I liked the color option of the essentials line. Totally comfortable with that price point. Lack of some features would be a bit of a bummer but probably could live with it. Fingers crossed some different colors come out eventually

I also like the price point of the Essentials line. As far as colors, I like the blue one. I'm just waiting for them to come out with maple fretboards. If they would have that blue w/maple fretboard and the same price, I'd get it.

 

[Ray-T]

Follower of Strandberg going back to when Ola was just blog posting trem designs, the prototype that was cut out of an actual strat and eventually the open licensing for the design.

Lots of cool stuff with this brand, though I think it eventually got a little stale. I kind of like an avante garde brand to stay unique in its offering and make the end user come to their vision rather than the other way around. At some point Strandberg became the same familiar silhouette with dozens of different variations in features in step with what you've been able to get from other brands for 70 years. Feels like a standard contour neck, fixed scale model with a head on it is just around the corner.

I don't like the price but I think that with the Meloria model innovation has made a return after Strandberg doing what feels like a 10 year innovation break.

 

[spawnofthesith]

A 1 pound block of rubber will not vibrate the same as a 1 pound block of carbon fiber, both of which have kind of similar densities. Neither will a 1 pound block of said carbon fiber vs a 1 pound thin plate of the same material.

It's not just density though, but also shape. I admittedly forget half of my courses in vibrations, (not my area of expertise in my years after starting work as an engineer) but it really does come down to stiffness, mass of the oscillating/reciprocating body(ies), damping, and resonant frequencies. Guitars are very complex systems from a vibrations point of view, and the very shape of them will change not just things like decay and sustain, but also which harmonics will starting decaying first. The different parts of a guitar and their dimensions wiĺl also change its vibrational properties. A lot of these little details on their own are quite imperceptible to most people's ears.

My Oni Essi 8 is quite a light and thin guitar, but it acoustically projects sound very loudly, and it sustains for long. Dan has purposely designed it this way. An example of that is the inclusion of two carbon fiber rods in the headstock along the outer edges. Also, he gets away with having a super long neck on these guitars relative to body size because he has managed to make them quite stiff with all the internal carbon fiber structures he makes. I can't tell you that I know exactly what difference in sound and sustain these things make individually, but it's a ton of little considerations like these added together that can make a bigger difference. Props to all the skilled luthiers out there. These guys are basically engineers without a degree.

Also:

Vibrations are not "high school physics". They are a last-year course in mechanical engineering degrees, and use a ton of equations that draw parallels to electricity and magnetism laws as well as control systems. Entire graduate programs span out of vibrational analysis.

But I read on TGP that its the pickups only, that muppet man from nashville proved it

 

[ArtDecade]

 

[groverj3]

Played a Strandberg bodem 8 recently, and guess what? Itdid not suck at all

Is played and sounded nice and is was light and comfortable.
Off course I only applied sweeptapping and zeroonezerrozerroone riffs so don’t know for sustain

Binary metal

 

[Pietjepieter]

Binary metal

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[ArtDecade]

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That is djent.

 

[Pietjepieter]

That is djent.

Nha djent needs dotted notes

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[narad]

I've got something rigid and dense I want to show you for 9.99 per month on my OF.

Hey I don't want to pay $9.99 a month to learn high school physics.

 

[jco5055]

I don't think Strandbergs suck, but I do think the hype was IMMENSE back in the pre-production age (I'm thinking when I was in college, and I graduated in 2013). Since then, it's obviously died a bit from the "ultimate ergonomic guitar" ethos it seemed to have. Actually playing the models, and I've played a lot thanks to them being available at Guitar Centers etc, they are fine but definitely don't have that "wow" factor I find in stuff like ESP original/custom shop models for example. I think if they were cheaper (Like what we expect from Indonesian guitars in general) I'd maybe pick one up just for that headless itch.

I honestly don't even think they are as ergonomic as they're marketed as. I actually do like the neck, but the bolt on models are still a bit clunky at the heel, and I think the Boden body shape is actually not ergonomic compared to like a Klein or Forshage Orion....When I played an Orion that thing was eye opening for how just absolutely PERFECT it was position wise.

I would like to try the J Artisan models, but man that price tag is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Mechanos71]

It is always entertaining reading internet arguments about sustain. I do enjoy my strandberg, but mine is an older washburg (formerly Aaron Marshall's). Honestly my biggest complaint about it is there isn't enough travel in the action adjustment screws to lower it as far as I would like, but its been great to me over the years and is just super easy to take with you on a roadtrip to get some practice in when you are away from home.

 

[spawnofthesith]

I would like to try the J Artisan models, but man that price tag is absolutely ridiculous.

Same but yeah. Laughable that they cost 2-3x what Sugi's actual guitars cost

 

[swimrunner]

It is always entertaining reading internet arguments about sustain. I do enjoy my strandberg, but mine is an older washburg (formerly Aaron Marshall's). Honestly my biggest complaint about it is there isn't enough travel in the action adjustment screws to lower it as far as I would like, but its been great to me over the years and is just super easy to take with you on a roadtrip to get some practice in when you are away from home.

If it is like the modern NX ones, there are springs under the screws. You can re-seat, clip, or try a different spring.

 

[jco5055]

Same but yeah. Laughable that they cost 2-3x what Sugi's actual guitars cost

I got to play one at the Axe Palace a few years ago (was the personal guitars of one of the employees) and I remember thinking they were pretty nice, but yeah prices are crazy but I guess expected considering what the regular Indo bergs go for

 

[gh0styboi]

I also like the price point of the Essentials line.

Honestly, it's the only Strandberg I'm considering at this point. I can't see paying what they're asking for the more costly lines just because Ola made an (admittedly) cool and efficient body shape and a flat-backed neck, or the NX line because they've got fancier tops and Fishmans. Not saying they're crap, I just don't know that I believe that it's going to be superior or even equal to the S Prestige I've got, and if I'm paying what Strandberg is asking for those guitars, that's my bar.

 

[Ray-T]

Honestly, it's the only Strandberg I'm considering at this point. I can't see paying what they're asking for the more costly lines just because Ola made an (admittedly) cool and efficient body shape and a flat-backed neck, or the NX line because they've got fancier tops and Fishmans. Not saying they're crap, I just don't know that I believe that it's going to be superior or even equal to the S Prestige I've got, and if I'm paying what Strandberg is asking for those guitars, that's my bar.

I also like the price point of the Essentials line. As far as colors, I like the blue one. I'm just waiting for them to come out with maple fretboards. If they would have that blue w/maple fretboard and the same price, I'd get it.

As an internet observer, doesn't the Essential have better hardware and no zero fret that will get dented and make pling noise over time?