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My best advice for anyone seeking a custom guitar, please do your research on the company, go to reputable companies such as ..., Halo or whomever you know is a reputable company.
not trying to side-track the whole thread, but how is the situation with Invictus parallel with BRJ? Not a big fan of BRJ, as far as I know, they make quality instrument, but takes forever to be made.
ADDED: I'm almost 100% clueless about BRJ, but I'd like to know the issues with them.
I was soooo close to buying into the hype several months back, thank you SSO people for saving me back then. <3 I'm glad to know better these days.
I'm pretty sad though for some of the awesome people who ended up involved with Invictus, but not so much involved with the actual builds and that didn't know well what they were getting into, like Jiv and Matt.
ITT: Folks in small bands seeking awesome endorsements are surprised their <$1k customs are not Blackmachine killers.
Really, was any of this at all a surprise? Notice the theme of everyone going for the ridiculous, nay too-good-to-be-true, deals getting bent over the barrel.
I'm not saying that folks should always go with the most expensive, or the biggest fish in the pond, but at least consider for a second why something is so much cheaper.
It's a bummer for the guys who got fucked, and even more so for those who shelled out top dollar.
How many more have to get ripped off before folks decide that the newest, cheapest BM-copier might not be the best place to throw their limited funds at?
Also a bit of a funny story....my friend and I walked into a local guitar store here with his b6 to try out a few amps and the guy asked us if that was in Invictus![]()
The Ever Forthright guitar was setup and checked before being shipped out. All I can offer after that are my apologies.
Guys...Are we 100% sure this is an awful guitar and not a really well made guitar-shaped cake?
A shame. The wood choices look pretty good. Need to find out their wood supplier.
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made me lol.
also@stealth: I guess I can't actually speak for Matt, because I think he did some of the actual luthiery work there and I never really talked to him, but I feel knowing Jiv (Nautilus/Endar Guitars dude) a bit that he couldn't have had a full grasp on the stuff happening. I feel they at least had some decent guitars made (given stuff like Leah and Pin getting them after having tried some), and this was around the time Jiv joined them, after trying some of their instruments and then ordering his in because he was happy with what he tried. They most likely had decently made examples to show people, then rushed commissioned builds, I imagine.
Also note, Jiv was not doing luthiery really for Invictus, he basically existed to post updates and give out quotes. I know having had looked through the Invictus facebook photos on a few occasions (obviously you can't now) but there was pretty much never a shot with Jiv and any of the guitars together, I imagine he probably didn't spend too much time in the workshop and seeing the in progress stuff in person. He's also a lefty, so unless he wanted to test some upside-down I doubt he was a part of testing any.
From what he's told me he did begin to realize things going downhill, especially with build times and such, and if you do check his post history on here, he did stop hyping during that time. His enthusiasm for plugging the brand just dropped extremely fast overall, aka, within like 2 months, then he just kinda disappeared, probably having already begun realizing things wrong. The only sketchy post is the one he did in the Vildjharta thread, though he technically did not try to justify anything in it, he simply offered to try to answer people's questions if they messaged him or whatnot.
He's always seemed like a really awesome and genuine person to me, and he's been taking the Endar stuff rather seriously, though obviously with only one prototype done (which he basically decided was not up to the level he wanted and is working on a second prototype now) I have no real judgement on it (though it certainly looks better than that Invictus, mirite?). I do on the other hand look forward to seeing more from him and hope that he does do well.
I'm sure you and most other people have already formed your opinions, just giving my two cents. *shrug*
Guys...Are we 100% sure this is an awful guitar and not a really well made guitar-shaped cake?