Line 6 announcement on January 23rd. New amp?

[SandyRavage]

The Gear Page 1.2a.

Pretty whiny, lame, assumptive commentary from a bunch of "people" that have never touched or even seen the product in the flesh..

This = 90% of content on any Internet message board now. I feel like people spend more time reading about new gear than actually playing what they have.....although this time of year I definitely fall into that boat drooling over NAMM stuff.

 

[VacantPlanet]

It's really dumb that L6 toted this as a "reinvention of the amp", but it's using technology from a previous generation. What sensible company does that!?

 

[SandyRavage]

AS IT SHOULD BE!

I think what most people are disappointed with is Line6 seemingly abandoning the "Pro" end of the market they practically created.

Maybe their product focus from here on out will be entry-level, "consumer electronics" type devices that have shorter life cycles and higher profit margins. Who knows? But i think a lot of the complaints are from people who legitimately like the company and have used their products, yet see the company slipping further into irrelevance to the pro musician market.

Very good point but just because metal is way better than Miley Cyrus doesn't mean it's gonna be as profitable.

My thought is that these are excellent home rigs with a very specific target that is not the average person on this site (we like shinier toys) but just because its different doesn't mean it's bad.

From a business standpoint this is a great product as products like this allow them a means to capital to develop their professional gear that we do like, and given how quickly the technology is moving right now I doubt coming up with an Axe FX clone, or rebooting the HD system would be profitable in the long run.

 

[SandyRavage]

It's really dumb that L6 toted this as a "reinvention of the amp", but it's using technology from a previous generation. What sensible company does that!?

Its reinventing how the average consumer uses and views a practice amp...

We are not the average consumer. Think middle american dad buying gear for his 13 year old who also wants a bc rich warlock, or dean dimebag tribute. This stands out in spades in that aspect.

 

[macgruber]

This = 90% of content on any Internet message board now. I feel like people spend more time reading about new gear than actually playing what they have.....although this time of year I definitely fall into that boat drooling over NAMM stuff.

if you have such a problem with 90% of the content on the message boards, what are you doing wasting time here? its nothing but hipster elitists with mustaches jumping on the bandwagon, right?

i came because i was genuinely excited to see what line 6 had to offer - i love some of their products and want them to keep bringing out excellent products at an affordable price.

atomic audio seems to have come out of nowhere with a souped up alternative to the pod HD series for NAMM...thats the kind of product myself and many others were looking for.

darren hit the nail on the head when he said they've abandoned pro level amp modeling after they practically invented it.

that could/should have been line 6 upping their game instead of another brand...

 

[SandyRavage]

if you have such a problem with 90% of the content on the message boards, what are you doing wasting time here? its nothing but hipster eliteists with moustaches jumping on the bandwagon, right?

The other 10% of product reviews, guitar porn, and marketplace.....but most importantly the women. There are women here right?

 

[Lain]

Link to the atomic audio alternative to the pod HD?

 

[macgruber]

Link to the atomic audio alternative to the pod HD?

NAMM 2014: Atomic Amps and Studio Devil unveil Amplifire pedal | Atomic Amps and Studio Devil unveil Amplifire pedal | Guitar News | MusicRadar

boom!

 

[capoeiraesp]

Anyone notice the cracked screen on the dude's iPhone in the video?

I know there are a lot of Android lovers here. Why not pickup a used iPod touch for less than $100? Fair alternative I'd say.

 

[Chris O]

I remember when L6 was a handful of products. They've diversified a LOT. Perhaps you guys might consider where they are truly profiting? It's not just about making a minority happy - even if they are the ones who got you there. It's about profitability. The playing field they created was overtaken by up & comers. They may not have the intellectual horsepower to get back on top, so they are going to capitalize in other areas.

Besides, even if they produced the AxeFx3, you guys would find a way to bitch about it. Sad, but true. The internet provides that podium for everyone to "know better".

Now...back to your regularly scheduled grandstanding & armchair QB'ing.

 

[Spinedriver]

The Gear Page 1.2a.

Pretty whiny, lame, assumptive commentary from a bunch of "people" that have never touched or even seen the product in the flesh.

"Potential of L6"? From all I've read here, it would seem everyone expects them to fail, thereby inferring they have NO potential.

Back to your cork-sniffery now.

The reactions here are more or less directed towards Line 6's claims about "reinventing" the guitar amp when they've actually done no such thing. Tons of amps have a cd input and many more have hooked a set of studio monitors up to their Pods. The only "reinventing" they've done is incorporate Bluetooth and iOS compatibility.

So yeah, I can see where it comes across as "cork sniffing" but it's more like people calling them out on over-hyping on what is basically a re-configured Spider amp.

 

[Lain]

Well, seems like the atomic audio thingie will only be available from their website? And i have yet to hear it.

The hype build up by Line6 really was over the top though.

 

[darren]

It's really dumb that L6 toted this as a "reinvention of the amp", but it's using technology from a previous generation. What sensible company does that!?

Well, I suppose one could argue that they've "re-invented" their own product from 2007.

 

[Spinedriver]

I remember when L6 was a handful of products. They've diversified a LOT. Perhaps you guys might consider where they are truly profiting? It's not just about making a minority happy - even if they are the ones who got you there. It's about profitability. The playing field they created was overtaken by up & comers. They may not have the intellectual horsepower to get back on top, so they are going to capitalize in other areas.

Besides, even if they produced the AxeFx3, you guys would find a way to bitch about it. Sad, but true. The internet provides that podium for everyone to "know better".

Now...back to your regularly scheduled grandstanding & armchair QB'ing.

Honestly, I don't think that's right. MANY people here gave Line 6 props when the HD series came out. It's called "credit where credit's due". When a company launches a huge marketing campaign, they raise expectations. When the expectations aren't met and people show their disappointment, it's not always because they are being 'elitist'. Look at Pepsi Clear, Sega Dreamcast, HD DVD, etc ... They all failed for one reason or another. Time will tell with this one but chances are they are going to have to drop the price to hit their sales projections.

 

[Rick]

Anyone else notice how elitist this forum has become

Welcome to sevenstring.org.

 

[Albionic]

I think I'd have been pretty happy with the hd amp models in an frfr amp/speaker like the l2 that can play impulses thus enabling me to turn up to a gig with just a guitar and amp but have all the sounds I need. I don't mind the iOS stuff but it seems gimmicky to base amp around a phone.

 

[slothrop]

The reactions here are more or less directed towards Line 6's claims about "reinventing" the guitar amp when they've actually done no such thing. Tons of amps have a cd input and many more have hooked a set of studio monitors up to their Pods. The only "reinventing" they've done is incorporate Bluetooth and iOS compatibility.

So yeah, I can see where it comes across as "cork sniffing" but it's more like people calling them out on over-hyping on what is basically a re-configured Spider amp.

This just in, marketing departments often exaggerate using terms like "reinvent" and it's clear that many people are just learning that.

Anyway, these types of threads are pure gold, keep it up.

 

[Albionic]

I think right now the forum is the least elitist it's ever been when i first came here the answer to every what amp question was get a 5150/6505 even if the guy was looking for a small low volume practice amp lol. Then there was the period where the answer to every query was get an axe fx. Now I see a healthy number of tranny amp enthusiasts around as well as various modellers from the likes of digitech boss and line6 being discussed.

 

[Chris O]

Honestly, I don't think that's right. MANY people here gave Line 6 props when the HD series came out. It's called "credit where credit's due". When a company launches a huge marketing campaign, they raise expectations. When the expectations aren't met and people show their disappointment, it's not always because they are being 'elitist'. Look at Pepsi Clear, Sega Dreamcast, HD DVD, etc ... They all failed for one reason or another. Time will tell with this one but chances are they are going to have to drop the price to hit their sales projections.

Never said "elitist".

So is the idea behind marketing to underwhelm? To not create buzz? To make something seem like it's the same old thing? Did I miss something here? Have you watched any car commercials lately? Read any trade mags?

Huge marketing was an email blast. Hardly huge. I didn't see many (any) print ads, and I sure as hell didn't see any TV commercials.

Pretty sure this was successful marketing, because all the important people on the internet are talking about something they've never tried.

But I agree 100% with you - time will tell.

 

[Chris O]

I guess I'm just happy to live in a time where there is such a HUGE variety of stuff at various price points, and it all sounds better than the "Grail gear" of 20 years ago.

It's an exciting time to be a guitarist.