Line 6 POD HD Thread

meambobbo · Apr 4, 2013

The Torpedo seems great but overpriced. If Line 6 learns anything from it, it would be to put multiple impulses per cab/mic to simulate position in relation to the cone and angle, then rather than cycle through them have a smart editor that has them in a matrix and let them move in two dimensions. IE you could choose from 4 different angles and 6 positions, rather than straight cycling through 24 impulses.

I've seriously thought about buying a GSP1101 for just the IR loading and off-loading delay/reverb. The GSP does need to truncate the .wav files to load them, but there's little impact to tone quality from what I've heard.

But given that we're talking about people that can't maintain a forum, I don't expect any wonders anytime soon. Probably gonna get away from Line 6 after this generation. Too many stupid decisions in the HD.

Deadnightshade · Apr 4, 2013

Just a heads up for the hd desktop(bean) users that downloaded the desktop patches,if meambobbo's patches sound weird,it's probably because all amp and cab DEPs spawn at 50% (for example , first thing you may notice is the lack of low end,since the cab high pass filters start at like at 260Hz).I strongly advise to keep the hd500 edit in your computer so that you can see the correct values of the hd500 patches,and keep in mind that input 2:mic makes hell of a difference.

meambobbo · Apr 4, 2013

FUCK - good looking out - I'll get it all fixed for the next release. I'm going to ask jZab for the source code and try to fix his program, maybe enhance it. Works great outside of the Bean translation.

meambobbo · Apr 4, 2013

RobPhoboS · Apr 4, 2013

Thanks again - I tried them last night with my new x-series 6 string jackson, and thought they sounded very thin (I'm using the HDdesktop), I didn't have a chance to try it on the baritone but looks like a bug now.
Cheers guys !

meambobbo · Apr 4, 2013

I'm going to take the Bean patches down for now, since as Deadnightshade pointed out, the jZab converter set all the cab DEP's to 50%, including low cut, giving all the patches a high-pass with cutoff at 260 HZ. Yeah...that's gonna make them way too thin. Sorry about that.

Shask · Apr 4, 2013

meambobbo said:
The Torpedo seems great but overpriced. If Line 6 learns anything from it, it would be to put multiple impulses per cab/mic to simulate position in relation to the cone and angle, then rather than cycle through them have a smart editor that has them in a matrix and let them move in two dimensions. IE you could choose from 4 different angles and 6 positions, rather than straight cycling through 24 impulses.

I've seriously thought about buying a GSP1101 for just the IR loading and off-loading delay/reverb. The GSP does need to truncate the .wav files to load them, but there's little impact to tone quality from what I've heard.

But given that we're talking about people that can't maintain a forum, I don't expect any wonders anytime soon. Probably gonna get away from Line 6 after this generation. Too many stupid decisions in the HD.

Every time I read your posts I always think you need an Axe-FX. Seriously. Even the 'old' Standard or Ultra would be a wonderful place to be.

I have a Standard, and I am always playing it back to back with my HD500. I think the HD is a great unit, but I agree, there are a lot of weird things going on in that unit that you just don't have to deal with, with other units.

meambobbo · Apr 4, 2013

Given Axe vs. Pod, I'll take the Axe of course. Given Axe vs. Pod+$800...well, I'm a cheap bastard.

meambobbo · Apr 4, 2013

Can anyone with a Pro confirm the Cab DEP's are not set to 50% across the board like the Bean patches?

Shask · Apr 4, 2013

meambobbo said:
Given Axe vs. Pod, I'll take the Axe of course. Given Axe vs. Pod+$800...well, I'm a cheap bastard.

So am I.. which is why I have a Standard and not an Ultra or II

flv75 · Apr 4, 2013

Mr Meambobbo , thank you very much for your great work !!

MikeK · Apr 4, 2013

Cant wait to get home and try out the Vildhjarta patch man! Ive been working on one for a while, but feel like its slightly lacking somehow.

Also working on a Danza patch, more like the Danza IIII album. Ill probably upload that tonight.

meambobbo · Apr 4, 2013

Shask said:
So am I.. which is why I have a Standard and not an Ultra or II

Yeah, that's the only one in consideration for me. But still, the cheapest I've seen one was still around $900. Add a foot controller, and you're still at that the +$600 mark compared to a Pod for $400.

What I thought was crazy was that you can find a used 11 Rack without ProTools for like $250 here and there. I always thought they were more expensive.

What I really want is a Kemper, but that's not happening anytime soon...maybe ever.

jrstinkfish · Apr 4, 2013

meambobbo said:
I'm going to take the Bean patches down for now, since as Deadnightshade pointed out, the jZab converter set all the cab DEP's to 50%, including low cut, giving all the patches a high-pass with cutoff at 260 HZ. Yeah...that's gonna make them way too thin. Sorry about that.

Well that explains that :lol:

Maybe I need to sell this Desktop and invest a little more in an HD500, just seems to be the more popular option (and I've been thinking of adding a shortboard anyway).

Appreciate your work, it's giving me a nice starting point.

Shask · Apr 4, 2013

meambobbo said:
Yeah, that's the only one in consideration for me. But still, the cheapest I've seen one was still around $900. Add a foot controller, and you're still at that the +$600 mark compared to a Pod for $400.

What I thought was crazy was that you can find a used 11 Rack without ProTools for like $250 here and there. I always thought they were more expensive.

What I really want is a Kemper, but that's not happening anytime soon...maybe ever.

You could use the HD500 as a controller. That is what I am doing now, although I may sell the HD500 and just use the Midimate I have sitting around.

The 11R WAS much more expensive, but people are dumping them left and right since Avid pretty much gave up on them.

I never really gave the Kemper a serious look until a few days ago. Now I am starting to think about it more... I like the "traditional" guitar multi-FX approach the Axe-FX has, but there is no denying that the Kemper seems to be winning people over in terms of pure amp tones.

meambobbo · Apr 4, 2013

JR, I have actually contemplated switching to a bean so that I can move my rig around my house more easily. The floorboard design you'd think would make that easier, but with an almost 1 year old crawling everywhere and trying to pull things apart and eat them, I can't just set it on the ground, but it takes up too much real estate on any table-tops in my living room...

Shask, Pod + Axe = way out of budget, lol. But I agree it's a good solution, especially since the Pod can serve as a backup for the Axe in a pinch (although you need another foot controller to serve as a backup for the Pod :-/ )

The thing I like about the Kemper is that you're not confined to what the manufacturer delivers. People are profiling new amps (or better profiles of popular ones) everyday. Then there's the crazy additional parameters you can tweak to get "unicorn amps" - things pretty much impossible in the analog world. The downside is that you can't run dual amps or complex signal chains like in the Axe world or even the Pod world really. And your FX choices are more limited. But considering I don't do too much of that, I think the upside is huge.

Nemonic · Apr 4, 2013

I have to admit that th CAB version is a bit overpriced, but it is also affordable. But the thing is, once you have an impulse loader along with a power amp modeler, you can really downsize your rig when using it along with, for example, AMT preamps. Not many reasons to stay with Line 6 in that situation.
I am still considering the GSP, even if it was used just as IR box. I do not know for sure, but I think it has a 5150 inside.

RobPhoboS · Apr 4, 2013

Speaking of AMT, I was thinking about picking up a P2 and running it through the pod (no amp/cab here at mo).

RickyCigs · Apr 4, 2013

The new bogner uberschall pedal would go great with the c.a.b. as well... Of course, then your only limited to one tone plus impulses.

ghostred7 · Apr 4, 2013

question for all....not sure if this would be the correct place...but the pod hd is at least involved

i am thinking of making a video. my camera has 2 XLR inputs. I would like to playback the song via the DAW or whatever as well as take a direct from the Pod.

Sonar recognizes the Pod as a USB "sound card." Could I run Sonar --> Pod & Guitar --> pod and just use the Pod's stereo out?

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