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I want a 1527!!
who....Chris said:There's always the Lionel Ritchie forums.![]()
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who....Chris said:There's always the Lionel Ritchie forums.![]()
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Chris said:Because I am a big, giant a-hole. And I am prejudice against tube amps, and intend to convert the world into Schecter-playing-Solid-State-using-metal-gods. Like me.
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Parents?! WTF is that supposed to mean?!metalfiend666 said:He's a crooner. The guy that did "Hello (Is it me you're looking for)". Ask your parents.
Chris said:Because I am a big, giant a-hole. And I am prejudice against tube amps, and intend to convert the world into Schecter-playing-Solid-State-using-metal-gods. Like me.
Drew said:I, meanwhile, will do my best to convert Chris into a Schecter-playing-Mesa-weilding-metal-god. Like me. Sort of. I just need to buy a shecter first and stop playing bluesy prog.
12AT7's aren't "inferior," per se... they're just a LOT lower gain than 12AX7's. They can be subbed in for an AX7 in any existing tube amp if you want to lower the gain a bit (and in fact one or two of 'em would probably do some good in a Recto, IMO), but frankly I'm a little surprised you can get that much gain out of two AT's and two AX's without at least a 5th gain stage... Does it have a schematic in the manual a la Mesa telling which side of which tube is part of what stage?
Anyway, that's why your clean channel is so clean - REALLY low gain preamp tubes. I'm actually kind of intrigued, and would like to give one of these things a try now simply based on the unusual tube choice.
strychnine said:Would you care to back that up with some hard facts? Jamie and Pat are buddies of mine. I wouldnt like anyone to mess with their rep unless you do have some evidence. Im not taking a shot at you but I gotta defend my buddies is all. During the date here in miami when I hooked up with them he was using his madison. they didnt mention any issues with the madison head. Just curious. - strychnine
Drew said:12AT7's aren't "inferior," per se... they're just a LOT lower gain than 12AX7's. They can be subbed in for an AX7 in any existing tube amp if you want to lower the gain a bit (and in fact one or two of 'em would probably do some good in a Recto, IMO), but frankly I'm a little surprised you can get that much gain out of two AT's and two AX's without at least a 5th gain stage... Does it have a schematic in the manual a la Mesa telling which side of which tube is part of what stage?
Pete still uses Framus Cobras (as he does in the video) but the other guitarst it pretty strictly Madison as far as I know. They both used to play 5150's but now they don't have a single good thing to say about them. Pete posts on this site occasionally and Harmony Central on a daily basis, he's made it very clear that he HATES 5150's.
Sorry Drew, mine didnt come with a manual. I could ask for a schematic if your that intrigued but maybe one could be found on the madison website?... Does it have a schematic in the manual a la Mesa telling which side of which tube is part of what stage?
LordOVchaoS said:The divinity is usuable through the whole sweep though I still use mine at about half. It's plenty of gain, just not overkill.
strychnine said:side topic
Lord, what are the settings you are running your Divinity?
eaeolian said:How about Jackson-wielding, Recto playing Metal Gods?
strychnine said:Gain = 10
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Yikes. And to think I thought gain knobs had a "10" on them so you knew where NOT to set them...
Drew said:I, meanwhile, will do my best to convert Chris into a Schecter-playing-Mesa-weilding-metal-god. Like me. Sort of. I just need to buy a shecter first and stop playing bluesy prog.
12AT7's aren't "inferior," per se... they're just a LOT lower gain than 12AX7's. They can be subbed in for an AX7 in any existing tube amp if you want to lower the gain a bit (and in fact one or two of 'em would probably do some good in a Recto, IMO), but frankly I'm a little surprised you can get that much gain out of two AT's and two AX's without at least a 5th gain stage... Does it have a schematic in the manual a la Mesa telling which side of which tube is part of what stage?
Anyway, that's why your clean channel is so clean - REALLY low gain preamp tubes. I'm actually kind of intrigued, and would like to give one of these things a try now simply based on the unusual tube choice.
bostjan said:Do you know anyone who has tried this? I have a friend who put 12AT7's in his triple recto and fried two of them almost instantly! They were crumby old NOS tubes, though.
I talked to another guy about a year ago with various amps who tried to use these tubes and ended up frying something in most of them. I'm sure if the amp is built for them, it will handle them. I would highly suggest sticking with 12AX7's in a Mesa/Boogie, though.
As far as I know, the 12AX7 is the most updated preamp tube commercially available. You can always turn your gain down. I would swap power tubes before swapping preamp tubes anyway. You should be able to rebias poweramp tubes. Preamp tubes generally need so little adjustment that one is not included (I've never seen an amp with preamp bias, but I wouldn't say they don't exist) but I think dropping down to a much lower gain tube in a high gain amp is dangerous.
I'm no expert on tubes, mind you, so this is all speaking from what I've seen, not what I understand.
bostjan said:Do you know anyone who has tried this? I have a friend who put 12AT7's in his triple recto and fried two of them almost instantly! They were crumby old NOS tubes, though.
I talked to another guy about a year ago with various amps who tried to use these tubes and ended up frying something in most of them. I'm sure if the amp is built for them, it will handle them. I would highly suggest sticking with 12AX7's in a Mesa/Boogie, though.
As far as I know, the 12AX7 is the most updated preamp tube commercially available. You can always turn your gain down. I would swap power tubes before swapping preamp tubes anyway. You should be able to rebias poweramp tubes. Preamp tubes generally need so little adjustment that one is not included (I've never seen an amp with preamp bias, but I wouldn't say they don't exist) but I think dropping down to a much lower gain tube in a high gain amp is dangerous.
I'm no expert on tubes, mind you, so this is all speaking from what I've seen, not what I understand.
strychnine said:Would you care to back that up with some hard facts? Jamie and Pat are buddies of mine. I wouldnt like anyone to mess with their rep unless you do have some evidence. Im not taking a shot at you but I gotta defend my buddies is all. During the date here in miami when I hooked up with them he was using his madison. they didnt mention any issues with the madison head. Just curious. - strychnine