Well... Pantera had their early years.. they were.. all that glam and shit .. but whatever..
.. but later on they fucking kicked ass...
EDIT?: Oh wait.. this is a Metallica thread
Metallica - finished recording new album...
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Well... Pantera had their early years.. they were.. all that glam and shit .. but whatever..
.. but later on they fucking kicked ass...
EDIT?: Oh wait.. this is a Metallica thread
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ChaNce
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This. Lightening/Puppets were life-changing albums. Although I don't agree that the Black album was wrong: It was the culmination of the right sound, the right influences, producer, and environment, and single-handedly moved metal into the mainstream. It is still the go-to album for most engineers for drum and guitar sounds. It is by far the best-sounding metal album out there. A true masterpiece to be appreciated, even if you like some of their other albums better.
Old fart here too. Started with RTL the year it came out. The black album, while well produced, was no longer Metallica. I liked it for what it was, and have found likable elements in most of their stuff up to but not including St. Anger, and I may like a riff or two off of the new disc, but I'm not your typical codger. My tastes evolve. Mainstreamica happened to evolve in the opposite direction from where I was heading.
pretty much sums up my relationship with metallica, although for me it started with MOP, I heard RTL later
shadowgenesis
Yarrrrrr
i'll check out some of the songs before i buy it.. but i'll likely pick it up just to see Rick Rubin's work, as he's one of my personal heroes. Just from the little bit i saw him interacting w/ Lars in the one vid, i think he can bring something really great to the table by challenging the band and at the same time saying "there are no rules to follow"
even then, from the clips i've heard, it STILL sounds like it's gonna be too polished sounding for me. I think part of what made early metallica good was that the recordings sounded gritty. Of course i do love some real clean production for some things (Dream Theater comes to mind) but i can't see them trying to recapture the energy of their older work without going back to that general vibe.
even then, from the clips i've heard, it STILL sounds like it's gonna be too polished sounding for me. I think part of what made early metallica good was that the recordings sounded gritty. Of course i do love some real clean production for some things (Dream Theater comes to mind) but i can't see them trying to recapture the energy of their older work without going back to that general vibe.
Chris
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[edit]I cant get it to embed properly, tried a few url formats, and the [youtube] code isnt working for me
It's youtubevid, not just youtube, and you were embedding the fullscreen version, which ya can't do.
And yes, THIS = Metallica. You can tell Hetfield's voice isn't the same as his youth, but he sounds damn good anyway. The new Hetfield just sound like a washed up lounge act.
That said, LOOK at the fucking crowd in that video. They're playing to a sea of chaos, military beating people with clubs, broken glass and just energy. This is Metallica kicking ass, and why their new shit offends me. As soon as they became popular, they started to suck.
Chris
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This is fucking awesome as well.
Note, Hammett sounding great without a Wah in this video. People always crack on him because he's not John Petrucci, but Hammett was always just a lead guitarist in a thrash band, not some sweeping virtuoso. He never claimed to be perfect, didn't care, and wrote some damn legendary shit. He's still one of my guitar heros.
Note, Hammett sounding great without a Wah in this video. People always crack on him because he's not John Petrucci, but Hammett was always just a lead guitarist in a thrash band, not some sweeping virtuoso. He never claimed to be perfect, didn't care, and wrote some damn legendary shit. He's still one of my guitar heros.
Yeah i tried to post the original link (to the normal page) and that didnt work, so i tried a bunch of different url formats
youtubevid though, got it. thanks
FWIW dudes, friday when i saw em, first night of their new tour, was badass. James didnt croon once, and hammet laid off the wah. It looked alot closer to that video than it did to other more recent metallica shows. It was really sort of a back to the roots show to. they hardly played anything post AJFA
youtubevid though, got it. thanks
FWIW dudes, friday when i saw em, first night of their new tour, was badass. James didnt croon once, and hammet laid off the wah. It looked alot closer to that video than it did to other more recent metallica shows. It was really sort of a back to the roots show to. they hardly played anything post AJFA
playstopause
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Would be cool if they did another album like Justice, Puppets or Ride The Lightning. 
wes225
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ride the lightning puppet master for all.... ?Would be cool if they did another album like Justice, Puppets or Ride The Lightning.
shadowgenesis
Yarrrrrr
Would be cool if they did another album like Justice, Puppets or Ride The Lightning.
well there was talk of some crazy fast riffing, and that most of the songs are from 7 to 9 minutes long... it sounds like a step in the right direction
I went over to Mission: Metallica (oy, cheeeez)... in addition to the teaser clips, there's a Preview and a Fly on the Wall video up... the preview in particular was interesting to me, for two reasons:
1) Lars' natural rhythm sucks so bad, he can NOT keep time without a click
2) Lars is never wrong, and he will talk incessantly about it, to anyone who will listen. Or just breath in some kind of proximity.
Actually, not to dig him too hard about the click; as a drummer, if the rest of the band is feeling slight tempo shifts and all go with it, it can be hard to drag them back. Depending on the music, small tempo changes can be cool, going with the flow of the song.
On the other hand, if fucking Rick Rubin is telling you, oh so nicely, that you can't keep time worth a shit, shut the fuck up and listen!
1) Lars' natural rhythm sucks so bad, he can NOT keep time without a click
2) Lars is never wrong, and he will talk incessantly about it, to anyone who will listen. Or just breath in some kind of proximity.
Actually, not to dig him too hard about the click; as a drummer, if the rest of the band is feeling slight tempo shifts and all go with it, it can be hard to drag them back. Depending on the music, small tempo changes can be cool, going with the flow of the song.
On the other hand, if fucking Rick Rubin is telling you, oh so nicely, that you can't keep time worth a shit, shut the fuck up and listen!
there were a few fast riffs on st. anger and most of the songs were 7-9 minutes long (or felt like it)
I'm waiting for the "Guest appearance by Sam Totman!" annoucement.
Naren
OldschoolGhettostyle
there were a few fast riffs on st. anger and most of the songs were 7-9 minutes long (or felt like it)
Yeah, one of the (many) problems with Saint Anger is that they'd have a really simple song composed of 3-4 riffs that went on for 6-7 minutes. I didn't like the song, but if you were gonna just do really simplistic riffs over and over, you could have at least shortened it to 3-4 minutes, maybe added a melodic lead, or... I dunno. something.
I didn't like Saint Anger at all, but that was one of the problems that stuck out to me. Songs that were too long, considering what the songs were composed of.
shadowgenesis
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there were a few fast riffs on st. anger and most of the songs were 7-9 minutes long (or felt like it)
oh my bad. i wasn't fooled into buying that album.
On the other hand, if fucking Rick Rubin is telling you, oh so nicely, that you can't keep time worth a shit, shut the fuck up and listen!
the impression i got was that Rick was telling him NOT to use the click, because he LIKED the little variances in time and Lars refused to play WITHOUT it because he's such a bullheaded douchebag.
oh yeah. did i mention i think Lars is a total douche? That video does a pretty good job of summing up why
shadowgenesis
Yarrrrrr
anyone else think that Lars looks really awkward playing drums? Like... something about watching him play is kind of unnerving. Like. It seems odd that he really has to look at pretty much every drum he's hitting as opposed to naturally feeling the set. Or is that just in my mind?
Naren
OldschoolGhettostyle
I just thought it was weird that Robert's mike was louder than James'. So it seemed like James was just like "Fuck it." You see him try singing the chorus half through and then he's like, "Oh yeah... my volume's turned down really low... Fuck it."
I hate James' singing style nowadays, but you can't have Creeping Death without "DIE by my hand; we creep across the land, killing first born man."
