Mustaine left Dean and went to Gibson/Epiphone/Kramer

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

The grain showing through is 100% intentional. It's a very marmite design choice.

Yeeeah I'm not a fan of it. I think it would have looked good if it was an open grain satin finish like the back of the Gibson Paul Landers, to really give it that raw wood look and feel... But with the poly metallic gloss, it just looks weird.

 

[Ataraxia2320]

Yeeeah I'm not a fan of it. I think it would have looked good if it was an open grain satin finish like the back of the Gibson Paul Landers, to really give it that raw wood look and feel... But with the poly metallic gloss, it just looks weird.

Agreed. One of the many reasons I prefer the natural gloss finish.

 

[VMNT]

Dave's crib seems pretty cosy. Some of those prototypes (?) look really cool, the bottom row in particular.

 

[manu80]

the Kramer are really deans without the edge cut on the table....
Diggin' the green one down right !

 

[StevenC]

Dave's crib seems pretty cosy. Some of those prototypes (?) look really cool, the bottom row in particular.

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That green RIP is so much better than the burst RIP.

 

[Ataraxia2320]

The green one looks great.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Dude, the 2 black ones in the middle.

EDIT: Wait that top left one isn't a Prophecy V. Whoops. I'm curious if that was a prototype for the Prophecy line or Dave was considering used a standard Stoptail and Fluence pickups.

 

[Kyle Jordan]

Dave's crib seems pretty cosy. Some of those prototypes (?) look really cool, the bottom row in particular.

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The Green one and the Black and Gold are top shelf looking.

 

[Ataraxia2320]

Dude, the 2 black ones in the middle.

EDIT: Wait that top left one isn't a Prophecy V. Whoops. I'm curious if that was a prototype for the Prophecy line or Dave was considering used a standard Stoptail and Fluence pickups.

It's the binding on the body neck and headstock and the pickup covers that set those off.

 

[manu80]

ah ah. So it got defects (nut crack for a brand new guitar at 2800 euros awesome), inlay bit missing, sanding marks on the binding but 3500 euros now ? FFS...people...
https://reverb.com/fr/item/48817039...staine-signature-flying-v-exp-silver-metallic

 

[Captain Shoggoth]

Dave's crib seems pretty cosy. Some of those prototypes (?) look really cool, the bottom row in particular.

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Waiting to see if there's a sig model of the bottom-left black one at some point. Doubly so if Dave wants to get some extra $$ by doing an Explorer version

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

ah ah. So it got defects (nut crack for a brand new guitar at 2800 euros awesome), inlay bit missing, sanding marks on the binding but 3500 euros now ? FFS...people...
https://reverb.com/fr/item/48817039...staine-signature-flying-v-exp-silver-metallic

Plus it's a customer return.

but yeah but it was featured on a video so $$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[VMNT]

My understanding is that since the announcement 2 years ago, they produced only 26 of those Vs (13 natural and 13 in silver finish) One would think that a QA check of that first pre-release batch would have been a good idea...

 

[Ataraxia2320]

ah ah. So it got defects (nut crack for a brand new guitar at 2800 euros awesome), inlay bit missing, sanding marks on the binding but 3500 euros now ? FFS...people...
https://reverb.com/fr/item/48817039...staine-signature-flying-v-exp-silver-metallic

I'd be angry if he didnt disclose everything, but if there is someone out there who wants to pay that money for a guitar where he has been extremely thorough and forthcoming about the flaws then what's the problem?

Trogly knows the market value of Gibsons pretty well. If he's selling it for that price, then it's likely someone will pay that much for it. Gibson fanatics are a very different breed.

 

[X1X]

My understanding is that since the announcement 2 years ago, they produced only 26 of those Vs (13 natural and 13 in silver finish) One would think that a QA check of that first pre-release batch would have been a good idea...

There's a QC checklist included and every item was checked. What's your issue buddy

 

[VMNT]

 

[Matt08642]

My understanding is that since the announcement 2 years ago, they produced only 26 of those Vs (13 natural and 13 in silver finish) One would think that a QA check of that first pre-release batch would have been a good idea...

It's Gibson... Lol.

From the hundreds of Trogly videos I've watched where he takes guitars from many eras apart, Gibsons just seem to lean on the sloppy side more often than not.

 

[VMNT]

Dude, the 2 black ones in the middle.

EDIT: Wait that top left one isn't a Prophecy V. Whoops. I'm curious if that was a prototype for the Prophecy line or Dave was considering used a standard Stoptail and Fluence pickups.

Turns out it's all prototypes in that photo. The two top left are Epiphone, top right - Kramer, three bottom left - Custom Shop and the green is standard USA (wish they have kept it the way it is here).
Here is a close-up of the trans top with repulsive amount of gold - YMMV.

 

[Celtic Frosted Flakes]

Are the Kramers imports or USA made?

 

[StevenC]

Are the Kramers imports or USA made?

We don't know yet, but the assumption is that there will be both. The Gibson/Epiphones are the round horns and the Kramers are pointy. If the photo above is anything to go on, the dots on the silver Kramer mean it is an import and and the sharkfins on the natural one mean it is USA.

All speculation of course, but that's all we know.