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I don't think anyone is exactly "in an uproar" about it in the slightest. Thing is that this sort of thing has been attempted more than once in the past, from the infamous Pentatone stuff to Schecters, always tuned in fifths and aiming for different markets, so it's quite funny to see the hyperbolic marketing language applied here like "gamechanger" and attempting to use Collier's current appeal to push this as this sort of never attempted thing on the guitar market. Naturally, one goes to check it out and it's basically a non-baritone take on the 5ths tuned 5-string guitars that were around before, hence my jokes about it.But it's just kind of funny to me how we guitarists get in an uproar over something that's "different". I figured we, as 7-string guitarists, would have more of an open mind for "different" instruments.
If you don't like the guy or his music, I guess that's different. I don't know who he is and never sought out his music.
I legitimately thought the MAESTRO had some patent for this shit in the US or something.. that or nobody thought 5 string guitars were commercially viable since the cello blaster. I think the idea of a 5 string is cool, but not strandberg price tag cool.How do you manage to rip off Alex Gregory of all people
Also I see Guitar World is still in peak dickriding/clickbait form
That is such a weird takeaway that I think it says a lot more about you than it does the forum.Also I've never heard of this player, but as soon as I saw him I knew SSO dudes were gonna hate him cause he's young/good looking, the Tim Henson effect.
Nobody is in an "uproar"....chill!I really, really don't understand people getting their panties in a bunch about this. It's just like some bands - if you don't like their music, don't listen.
If you don't like this 5-string, don't buy it.
They sell a 6-string version. Looking at the Strandberg site, it's $2995.
For me, that's a bit too much so I won't be buying it (6-string version). But I do like the colors, the inlays, etc. It's different than the normal Strandbergs.
But it's just kind of funny to me how we guitarists get in an uproar over something that's "different". I figured we, as 7-string guitarists, would have more of an open mind for "different" instruments.
If you don't like the guy or his music, I guess that's different. I don't know who he is and never sought out his music.
I don't think anyone is exactly "in an uproar" about it in the slightest. Thing is that this sort of thing has been attempted more than once in the past, from the infamous Pentatone stuff to Schecters, always tuned in fifths and aiming for different markets, so it's quite funny to see the hyperbolic marketing language applied here like "gamechanger" and attempting to use Collier's current appeal to push this as this sort of never attempted thing on the guitar market. Naturally, one goes to check it out and it's basically a non-baritone take on the 5ths tuned 5-string guitars that were around before, hence my jokes about it.
I'm not a fan of his music, but I respect his approach and passion and I find him quite entertaining, so no "hate" for Collier here. I'm just very tired, as I'm sure many people are, of these blatantly hyperbolic claims marketing departments LOVE to come up with, which are the equivalent of the "you won't BELIEVE what this SIMPLE TRICK sounds like" tropes on video titles for the press.
The product itself is not what would appeal to me in the .strandberg* catalogue, as I have fiddled with all 5ths tunings before and I didn't quite gel with that myself, but if someone digs the concept, great. I do hope MikeH is completely wrong with his prediction, though.
Pretty much nailed it. I don't even know who the guy is, I just think the marketing is hilarious and the article from Guitar World sounds like Ola hired a PR guy to write it lol.I don't think anyone is exactly "in an uproar" about it in the slightest. Thing is that this sort of thing has been attempted more than once in the past, from the infamous Pentatone stuff to Schecters, always tuned in fifths and aiming for different markets, so it's quite funny to see the hyperbolic marketing language applied here like "gamechanger" and attempting to use Collier's current appeal to push this as this sort of never attempted thing on the guitar market. Naturally, one goes to check it out and it's basically a non-baritone take on the 5ths tuned 5-string guitars that were around before, hence my jokes about it.
I'm not a fan of his music, but I respect his approach and passion and I find him quite entertaining, so no "hate" for Collier here. I'm just very tired, as I'm sure many people are, of these blatantly hyperbolic claims marketing departments LOVE to come up with, which are the equivalent of the "you won't BELIEVE what this SIMPLE TRICK sounds like" tropes on video titles for the press.
The product itself is not what would appeal to me in the .strandberg* catalogue, as I have fiddled with all 5ths tunings before and I didn't quite gel with that myself, but if someone digs the concept, great. I do hope MikeH is completely wrong with his prediction, though.
I'm the hottest guy here by miles and everyone loves me.Also I've never heard of this player, but as soon as I saw him I knew SSO dudes were gonna hate him cause he's young/good looking, the Tim Henson effect.
There's a few more and some even include Steve Vai.
I can understand the hate towards Collier. I have tremendous respect for him, certainly give him credit for actually making music, touring, getting guys like Quincy Jones and Steve Vai on his side, rather than just a barrage of throwaway 'content'. And I genuinely like his music, it is charming seeing a young guy treat music like a massive playground. But I don't love it. Since he takes the maximalist method when it comes to writing and arranging it gets fatiguing to listen to. If reharmonising was like a picture, Collier is like the guy who starts drawing and doesn't stop and goes on some more; like how most Warhammer 40k or Image comics in the 90s overdesign their characters. It's too much information and gets old quickly even to guys who love dense music, similar to how free jazz can be unlistenable to most.
I feel like people don't take this view enough... It's like if I was complaining about a new ukulele release. It wasn't made for you, you aren't close to the target demographic, it seems like every bit of keyboard warrioring and unreasonable anger comes from seeing things on the internet and thinking everything must be made for *me specifically and I am the most important so everyone must hear my opinion regardless of what I do or don't have to do with the topic*.I really, really don't understand people getting their panties in a bunch about this. It's just like some bands - if you don't like their music, don't listen.
If you don't like this 5-string, don't buy it.
They sell a 6-string version. Looking at the Strandberg site, it's $2995.
For me, that's a bit too much so I won't be buying it (6-string version). But I do like the colors, the inlays, etc. It's different than the normal Strandbergs.
But it's just kind of funny to me how we guitarists get in an uproar over something that's "different". I figured we, as 7-string guitarists, would have more of an open mind for "different" instruments.
If you don't like the guy or his music, I guess that's different. I don't know who he is and never sought out his music.
Yeah, I don’t think people are really complaining about this as much as just having fun. It’s like when your friend that always wears t shirts rolls up in a dress shirt with a tie. You just HAVE to give him shit for it for like a week afterwards. Not because you hate dress shirts or your friend, but because it’s something different, and it’s how friends kill time and bond.I feel like people don't take this view enough... It's like if I was complaining about a new ukulele release. It wasn't made for you, you aren't close to the target demographic, it seems like every bit of keyboard warrioring and unreasonable anger comes from seeing things on the internet and thinking everything must be made for *me specifically and I am the most important so everyone must hear my opinion regardless of what I do or don't have to do with the topic*.
There are about a million other threads on just this site any member could probably contribute to with something useful they know of or relate to instead.
Idk anything about the dude, I think the guitar sucks lolYeah, everyone here is just a curmudgeon, and piling on at this point. There's a lot to make fun of/tease Jacob Collier about, but I'm not even sure where some of the criticisms itt are coming from lol.
Ah yes, we hate pretty people. Or perhaps it's that both of them ooze arrogance and douchiness. I respect the hell out of Henson as a player but I can't say I enjoy anything Polyphia have made since their stuff like 40 oz or Aviator.I legitimately thought the MAESTRO had some patent for this shit in the US or something.. that or nobody thought 5 string guitars were commercially viable since the cello blaster. I think the idea of a 5 string is cool, but not strandberg price tag cool.
Also I've never heard of this player, but as soon as I saw him I knew SSO dudes were gonna hate him cause he's young/good looking, the Tim Henson effect. Like what's the psychological link in metal guitar players thinking you're cool and being 40+ year old caveman. Like if this was the strandberg Sammy Duet signature 5 string, it would be weird, but people wouldn't be as nasty towards the player.
I have no problem with this take in particularIdk anything about the dude, I think the guitar sucks lol
lol I'm in the US and I'm tired of hearing about him.Since you're based in London, I'm assuming you're probably sick of hearing about the guy and can't stand him out of spite.
News Flash: Signature guitars have always been about corporate marketing. It has nothing to do with talent and everything to do with moving product. See: Schecter Machine Gun KellyGetting a signature guitar used to mean something and it's really sad that now it, too, is based on followers or likes, but alas I guess that's just corporate marketing.
Yeah look at all the sig stuff Eric Clapton getsNews Flash: Signature guitars have always been about corporate marketing. It has nothing to do with talent and everything to do with moving product. See: Schecter Machine Gun Kelly