"Not Worth its own thread" Thread

[CleansingCarnage]

Jeeeeez there's a lot of unnecessary neck shimming going on in the world, then. smh.

Yeah it's funny how little-known that feature is, but understandable. If you just picked up the guitar without being told about it the chances you'd see the tiny little screw in the bottom of the stud are practically zero.

 

[Bodes]

So wifey had Volbeat's Evelyn playing with Barney from Napalm Death screaming the verses, and Michael doing his normal singing for the choruses.

Wifey: I thought metal bands only has singers or screamers. Are there bands that do both? Can people actually swap between the two? thought they only screamed cause they can't sing too well.

Now I'm on a google rabbit hole search looking up who was the first band to incorporate both clean singing and screaming in the same song.
Wow! There are some really strong (incorrect) opinions out there...

 

[CleansingCarnage]

So wifey had Volbeat's Evelyn playing with Barney from Napalm Death screaming the verses, and Michael doing his normal singing for the choruses.

Wifey: I thought metal bands only has singers or screamers. Are there bands that do both? Can people actually swap between the two? thought they only screamed cause they can't sing too well.

Now I'm on a google rabbit hole search looking up who was the first band to incorporate both clean singing and screaming in the same song.
Wow! There are some really strong (incorrect) opinions out there...

So who was it? I would bet it happened very early in the development of harsh vocals. Does Celtic Frost count?

 

[KnightBrolaire]

So who was it? I would bet it happened very early in the development of harsh vocals. Does Celtic Frost count?

Screamin Jay Hawkins is the earliest I can think of.

 

[Bodes]

So who was it? I would bet it happened very early in the development of harsh vocals. Does Celtic Frost count?

Screamin Jay Hawkins is the earliest I can think of.

Some of the arguments around Screamin Jay Hawkins (and artists of similar era) was people were arguing that they weren't screaming, they were just trying to be heard over the loud instruments... *Rolls eyes*

Apparently Fear Factory were the first to properly incorporate both "true (TM)" metal screaming and clean singing, because before that no one was really doing the real screaming and singing. This is according to a bunch of sites I clicked on.
Yeah, right.
It all comes down to what individual people think "true(TM)" screaming is. *Rolls eyes again*

It was a rabbit hole of people trying to out-dick each other.

 

[KnightBrolaire]

Some of the arguments around Screamin Jay Hawkins (and artists of similar era) was people were arguing that they weren't screaming, they were just trying to be heard over the loud instruments... *Rolls eyes*

Apparently Fear Factory were the first to properly incorporate both "true (TM)" metal screaming and clean singing, because before that no one was really doing the real screaming and singing. This is according to a bunch of sites I clicked on.
Yeah, right.
It all comes down to what individual people think "true(TM)" screaming is. *Rolls eyes again*

It was a rabbit hole of people trying to out-dick each other.

Screaming Jay got really drunk when he recorded "I put a spell on you" and just went off the rails and it was a hit. He screamed because it was his schtick, not because he couldn't be heard (they had microphones then ffs).

Plus you have stuff like Boris the Spider from the Who where they use growls long before any metal band.



Burton's cleans are famously shit, idk if I'd credit FF with innovating on the vocal front lol

 

[Randy]

Twist and Shout by the Beatles has some pretty harsh vocals trading off with singing in tune. Lennon the OG fry screamer?

 

[Crungy]

I wouldn't call FF innovators for screaming and singing in the same song, but I think they had a hand in the early days of popularizing the format of screaming/heavy verses and clean singing/melodic choruses.

 

[nightsprinter]

I have a candlebox song stuck in my head that I haven't heard in ages

Why

 

[BlackMastodon]

thought they only screamed cause they can't sing too well.

I mean, she's not wrong there.

 

[KnightBrolaire]

Thinking about pivoting from just a tiffany blue finish on my Gus G star to a tiffany blue with black crackle over it.

 

[wheresthefbomb]

this reminds me of the time I watched a video of Barney talking about doing harsh vocals and the only piece of advice I took away was "eat a banana" (in a british accent)

 

[Fenriswolf]

this reminds me of the time I watched a video of Barney talking about doing harsh vocals and the only piece of advice I took away was "eat a banana" (in a british accent)

I saw a video back in the day where they said the trick to screaming is pretend you're puking and that muscle that tightens up, tighten that up when you want to scream. I mean, I'm a solid backup singer, I have about the range of Corey Taylor on Iowa, but I've tried it enough nothing hurts,so maybe I'm doing something right.

I mean, I sang that Falling in Reverse song with Corey Taylor on it at family karaoke night and I got a crucifix thrown at me. I'm at least good enough to get the job done.

 

[nightsprinter]

KMac is back!!!



I think the prestige stompin' twins are in it

 

[gabito]

KMac is back!!!



I think the prestige stompin' twins are in it

Finally! Kmac is great.

 

[Crungy]

KMac is back!!!



I think the prestige stompin' twins are in it

My brother sent it to me yesterday, Kmac is a comic genius... All of the staccato edits and the dolphin slide? Chef's kisses all around!

 

[wheresthefbomb]

man I'm so glad IG doesn't think I want to see that shit. instead it think I'm Indonesian/Indian for some reason. honestly if I have to see ads, seeing ads I can't read is the ideal scenario.

 

[nightsprinter]

man I'm so glad IG doesn't think I want to see that shit. instead it think I'm Indonesian/Indian for some reason. honestly if I have to see ads, seeing ads I can't read is the ideal scenario.

All those CRAFTED IN INDONESIA guitars you been looking at has your algorithm by the nads

 

[wheresthefbomb]

depositing a month's worth of bar paychecks (I only work one night a week so they're tiny):

bank teller: "okay that's $142.69 on your credit card"
me: "nice"

 

[CanserDYI]

Thinking about pivoting from just a tiffany blue finish on my Gus G star to a tiffany blue with black crackle over it.

Do you have a recommendation for a good crackle rattle can? I usually use Montana or Ironlak graffiti paint but not sure they offer a good crackle.