Replacing Kahler with Floyd Rose on a neck through guitar.

[jco5055]

I feel like I"ve seen the opposite asked, but not really Kahler -> Floyd Rose.

I am soon going to receive a custom shop quality guitar that has a Kahler 2300 model. I'm going to try to make it work, but this will actually be the first time I've truly owned a Kahler equipped guitar that is also high enough quality that I have no doubts it's set up correctly....so I'll get to see if I am the majority that will end up preferring a Floyd or not. I've posted many times here that I love Kahler's feel, but we'll see how it is in terms of staying in tune etc.

Now I'm really jumping the gun, but IF i wanted to eventually get a luthier to replace the Kahler with a Floyd, how hard would it be? My main concern is I know specifically this guitar has more neck angle since a Kahler needs it, and most Floyd guitars are straight. Since it's a neckthrough the angle can't be changed, so will this cause headaches? I should probably clarify I'd want a recessed floyd aka it can pull up also.


Thanks!

 

[eaeolian]

A bunch of Jacksons (and some Charvels) had this done, so it's definitely doable. You'd just have a topmount Floyd because of the angle.

 

[Rubbishplayer]

I feel like I"ve seen the opposite asked, but not really Kahler -> Floyd Rose.

I am soon going to receive a custom shop quality guitar that has a Kahler 2300 model. I'm going to try to make it work, but this will actually be the first time I've truly owned a Kahler equipped guitar that is also high enough quality that I have no doubts it's set up correctly....so I'll get to see if I am the majority that will end up preferring a Floyd or not. I've posted many times here that I love Kahler's feel, but we'll see how it is in terms of staying in tune etc.

Now I'm really jumping the gun, but IF i wanted to eventually get a luthier to replace the Kahler with a Floyd, how hard would it be? My main concern is I know specifically this guitar has more neck angle since a Kahler needs it, and most Floyd guitars are straight. Since it's a neckthrough the angle can't be changed, so will this cause headaches? I should probably clarify I'd want a recessed floyd aka it can pull up also.


Thanks!

There's a lot it depends on things you haven't told us. For example, is this guitar a carved or flattop, which will definitely affect feasibility.

But taking a flattop S-type guitar, for example, so long as you get the right model Kahler, I think a decent solid body luthier should be sble to do the conversion.

Just depends.

 

[jco5055]

There's a lot it depends on things you haven't told us. For example, is this guitar a carved or flattop, which will definitely affect feasibility.

But taking a flattop S-type guitar, for example, so long as you get the right model Kahler, I think a decent solid body luthier should be sble to do the conversion.

Just depends.

ah yeah my mistake, but it's a flat top

 

[jco5055]

A bunch of Jacksons (and some Charvels) had this done, so it's definitely doable. You'd just have a topmount Floyd because of the angle.

ah, so then would it be top mount but able to be pulled up like it's recessed?

 

[eaeolian]

ah, so then would it be top mount but able to be pulled up like it's recessed?

Yeah, they'll probably have to cut a recess. I had a guitar that was a Floyd conversion from a Kahler and it ended up with the full-size rout basically going entirely through the body. Depending on how crazy you want to go, you can have it filled and repainted.

 

[Crungy]

Since it's a neckthrough the angle can't be changed, so will this cause headaches?

Jokes aside it sounds doable, I'm just being a smartass lol

That said I have an old G&L Rampage with a Kahler and I really like it. Honestly I like the fine tuners better than all of my Ibanez trems.

 

[Rubbishplayer]

Jokes aside it sounds doable, I'm just being a smartass lol

That said I have an old G&L Rampage with a Kahler and I really like it. Honestly I like the fine tuners better than all of my Ibanez trems.

But your smart assery is warranted sir.

I agree with my learned gentleman: a Kahler is a wonderful experience. But its Betamax lost out to the VHSness of the Floyd.

Before you replace it, live with it a while. Then decide.

 

[ArtDecade]

But your smart assery is warranted sir.

I agree with my learned gentleman: a Kahler is a wonderful experience. But its Betamax lost out to the VHSness of the Floyd.

Before you replace it, live with it a while. Then decide.

Beta was better than VHS by every metric, but Kahler isn't necessarily better than Floyd.