SD Black Winter Worship thread

[KnightBrolaire]

Made a vid showcasing the Black winter 7 bridge and my Archon. They make a br00tal combo.

 

[Necky379]

I wonder if the spacer magnets actually contribute a significant amount to clarity? I modded a JB with a normal size A8 magnet (tends to beef it up quite a bit, possibly at the cost of clarity) and two ceramic spacer magnets and the result is just amazing. Big tone, excellent note separation - very 'focused' attack. My BW bridge is still quite a bit grittier and brighter, but that really wasn't the direction I was going for in the first place. Clarity is noteworthy in both cases

Spacer/flanking magnets make a substantial difference imo

Where did you find ceramic spacer magnets? I was thinking about modding a JB-7 and I can’t find any in the states.

 

[1b4n3z]

Where did you find ceramic spacer magnets? I was thinking about modding a JB-7 and I can’t find any in the states.

I bought mine from Cermag, a UK based company. They sell all kinds of magnets and they are happily already compatible with one another. There's nothing quite as grating as slanting pickup bobbins

 

[Sumsar]

Slightly necrobumping this thread, since I still love this pickup.

I did a cover of a Behemoth song using the black winter bridge pickup in my mahogany Chris broderick 7 soloist:

 

[PRS_Baritone_Vito]

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Slightly necrobumping this thread, since I still love this pickup.

I did a cover of a Behemoth song using the black winter bridge pickup in my mahogany Chris broderick 7 soloist:

Great cover, dude! Gotta love those Black Winters.

Does Behemoth usually tune to C# for their stuff?

 

[Sumsar]

Great cover, dude! Gotta love those Black Winters.

Does Behemoth usually tune to C# for their stuff?

Thanks, I have only covered songs from their Satanist album which seems to be all in C#

 

[KnightBrolaire]

got bored and recorded some wankery with my LTD Viper BW7 through my MK3.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/xuq9f7lrky0244e/BW7_Mk3_medley1.flac/file

 

[olejason]

Any of you guys running a black winter in an HSS setup? I've googled around but haven't found too much advice on what single coils to pair with a BW in the bridge. I mainly use the neck pickup for cleans and leads.

 

[SubsonicDoom99]

Any of you guys running a black winter in an HSS setup? I've googled around but haven't found too much advice on what single coils to pair with a BW in the bridge. I mainly use the neck pickup for cleans and leads.

I have not personally run the BW in an HSS setup but I know of someone who paired his with the Duncan Hot Rails in the middle and neck. Got an amazing tone out of it, playing mostly progressive rock/metal and doing a lot of lead guitar work with it. So I can't vouch for it first hand unfortunately but the tone he was getting out of that thing worked for me, seemed like it all balanced out nicely. https://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/hot-rails-strat-set

 

[AndiKravljaca]

I'd like to chime in and say, despite loads of people praising the BW bridge pickup, the Black Winter neck pickup is a goddamned gem? I've never heard a neck pickup out of Seymour Duncan's stable with that amount of output, punch and clarity. The closest thing I've heard is a BK Warpig neck pickup, and that's praise, or at least is intended to be. I think the BW neck pickup is Seymour's best kept secret...

 

[KailM]

I'd like to chime in and say, despite loads of people praising the BW bridge pickup, the Black Winter neck pickup is a goddamned gem? I've never heard a neck pickup out of Seymour Duncan's stable with that amount of output, punch and clarity. The closest thing I've heard is a BK Warpig neck pickup, and that's praise, or at least is intended to be. I think the BW neck pickup is Seymour's best kept secret...

Yes, the neck is wonderful too; your ears do not kid you. In general, I do not use the neck by itself very much, but when I do use the BW neck it is pretty smooth and creamy, with a little sparkle. It is that sparkle/character that has me thinking about swapping out the Liquifire in one of my guitars for a BW neck; as there is already a BW bridge in that guitar.

Certainly, the Liquifire I have is the cream of the crop for shreddy leads. Yet, I find myself getting bored with it, and the cleans are a little lackluster. When using the BW neck and bridge together for cleans it has an amazing sound. And when I do dabble in shred, it doesn't disappoint.

 

[Zoobiedood]

The clean sound of the BW neck pickup is remarkable. It is much more versatile than the description would have you believe.

 

[PRS_Baritone_Vito]

Yes, the neck is wonderful too; your ears do not kid you. In general, I do not use the neck by itself very much, but when I do use the BW neck it is pretty smooth and creamy, with a little sparkle. It is that sparkle/character that has me thinking about swapping out the Liquifire in one of my guitars for a BW neck; as there is already a BW bridge in that guitar.

Certainly, the Liquifire I have is the cream of the crop for shreddy leads. Yet, I find myself getting bored with it, and the cleans are a little lackluster. When using the BW neck and bridge together for cleans it has an amazing sound. And when I do dabble in shred, it doesn't disappoint.

I also have the BW in the bridge and neck and love the clean tones I get when I use the middle selector switch. I will usually roll my tone knob down a couple of notches as well, and man does it sound good.

 

[NeglectedField]

So I have the 'Blackened' BW's in my Schecter KM-6 (first iteration).

They do remind me of the fun I had with the TB-6 Distortion in my Ibanez S320; the tight tracking, the articulation and the way they 'drive' the amp. However, as the more astute of you may have seen from another thread I posted, I'm having a real problem with a very 'vowelled' sound, kinda like a 'cocked wah' or a 'nang/dwang' sound. Kinda like how this sounds at 1.06 onwards but not quite as extreme: - I don't know if that could be defined as an upper-mid and/or a treble thing.

It's a shame because I like everything else about it (except I prefer creamier neck pickups and am eyeing up stuff like the '59). I don't know if it's because it's in a swamp ash (w/ebony board) guitar, pickup height or what. I didn't have this issue with the Distortion but then again that was in a waffeur thin mahogany body.

A bit puzzled as to what possible alternatives there are. I like tight ceramic bite and brightness but not the aforementioned issue. It's that tiny thing that's preventing a fun pickup from being a viable recording pickup, for me.

 

[SamSam]

Fuck you guys, I've just had to order a set because of this thread

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

So I have the 'Blackened' BW's in my Schecter KM-6 (first iteration).

They do remind me of the fun I had with the TB-6 Distortion in my Ibanez S320; the tight tracking, the articulation and the way they 'drive' the amp. However, as the more astute of you may have seen from another thread I posted, I'm having a real problem with a very 'vowelled' sound, kinda like a 'cocked wah' or a 'nang/dwang' sound. Kinda like how this sounds at 1.06 onwards but not quite as extreme: - I don't know if that could be defined as an upper-mid and/or a treble thing.

It's a shame because I like everything else about it (except I prefer creamier neck pickups and am eyeing up stuff like the '59). I don't know if it's because it's in a swamp ash (w/ebony board) guitar, pickup height or what. I didn't have this issue with the Distortion but then again that was in a waffeur thin mahogany body.

A bit puzzled as to what possible alternatives there are. I like tight ceramic bite and brightness but not the aforementioned issue. It's that tiny thing that's preventing a fun pickup from being a viable recording pickup, for me.

Maybe try to replace the allen screws with regular flat head screws? I heard allen screws can add more aggression to the sound, and the BWs have an ungodly aggressive mid range kinda like the BKP Painkillers I find.

 

[NeglectedField]

Maybe try to replace the allen screws with regular flat head screws? I heard allen screws can add more aggression to the sound, and the BWs have an ungodly aggressive mid range kinda like the BKP Painkillers I find.

Yeah? Are these screws easy to find and do all pickups use the same thread type? And is it fairly obvious and straightforward a procedure or do you have to be super delicate to avoid damaging the pickup? If this saves me a heap of cash, that'd be awesome.

 

[kleinenenten]

Been interested in these pickups for a while, and was browsing for a new to me 7 string last night. Found a good old Ibanez SR7321 with Black Winters already installed for cheap. My buddy has that model with the Nazgul/Sentient combo, and it sounds amazing. We’ll see how it sounds compared to mine! Should have it some time this week week. Two birds - one stone. Psyched.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Yeah? Are these screws easy to find and do all pickups use the same thread type? And is it fairly obvious and straightforward a procedure or do you have to be super delicate to avoid damaging the pickup? If this saves me a heap of cash, that'd be awesome.

I'm not totally sure the procedure or if it'll actually 100% solve the problem, but Its worth a shot. Check the Duncan forums and theres probably some threads on how to swap hex screws for flatheads, and vice versa.

 

[PRS_Baritone_Vito]

So I have the 'Blackened' BW's in my Schecter KM-6 (first iteration).

They do remind me of the fun I had with the TB-6 Distortion in my Ibanez S320; the tight tracking, the articulation and the way they 'drive' the amp. However, as the more astute of you may have seen from another thread I posted, I'm having a real problem with a very 'vowelled' sound, kinda like a 'cocked wah' or a 'nang/dwang' sound. Kinda like how this sounds at 1.06 onwards but not quite as extreme: - I don't know if that could be defined as an upper-mid and/or a treble thing.

It's a shame because I like everything else about it (except I prefer creamier neck pickups and am eyeing up stuff like the '59). I don't know if it's because it's in a swamp ash (w/ebony board) guitar, pickup height or what. I didn't have this issue with the Distortion but then again that was in a waffeur thin mahogany body.

A bit puzzled as to what possible alternatives there are. I like tight ceramic bite and brightness but not the aforementioned issue. It's that tiny thing that's preventing a fun pickup from being a viable recording pickup, for me.

Have you tried adjusting the individual pole piece screws to see if that gets rid of that 'nag/dwang' sound you're hearing? I'd try raising them a couple of turns to see if it changes anything.

If you are thinking about swapping the screws out for a different head shape, from what I've read the length of the screw has a lot to do with the tone of the string as well. Here's an article I found on Seymour Duncan's website about the pole piece screw size and length - https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/the-tone-garage/tinkering-with-pickups-101