magarishun
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you should listen to some chuck berry, BB king or cream 335 clapton stuff
that should get the GAS going
So...Why do People Hate on Gibson and Fender Again?
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that should get the GAS going
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Rap Hat
the:pawn.project
Hell, get a 330 if you want a true hollowbody!
I'm majorly gassing for a 335 though. I love my 330 don't get me wrong, but every time I look at Gibsons I think how cool it would be to use one for metal and not have to worry about insane feedback.
I'm majorly gassing for a 335 though. I love my 330 don't get me wrong, but every time I look at Gibsons I think how cool it would be to use one for metal and not have to worry about insane feedback.
Grand Moff Tim
Some call me... Tim
I've got a Hamer 335 clone back in the States that I absolutely love, and it was my guitar of choice in the last black metal band I played guitar in. I'd love to have a legit 335, but Gibsons tend towards the "...as a motherfucker" side of expensive here in Korea. The shop where I bought my Epi LPC had a satin black 335, and they were asking what came out to damned near three grand for it. Nope.
I actually really like that they kept it wide. It looks good (I think the smaller Gibson semi-hollows look pretty weird), and my arm feels perfect resting on the bigger body. More perfect than on any other guitar.
I'm still to get an ES335 though
flexkill
Vodka & PentaTonic
I will never forget the first time I played a 335 many years ago when I was a kid. I was all "fuck this grandpa guitar shit" Then I plugged it in an.....WOW! I had no idea...and now I do.
Thing sounded killer and what really surprised me was how rock n roll it was with gain. Killer killer guitars.
Thing sounded killer and what really surprised me was how rock n roll it was with gain. Killer killer guitars.
Limpbizkitfan
Ibanez Lover
Gibson and fender are good but not that good if ur a metal guy
HeHasTheJazzHands
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Don Vito
Well-Known Member
ooh, ohh
I wanna play.
Matt looks like he just got back form Nam'
I wanna play.
Matt looks like he just got back form Nam'
No.
That one is a Jaydee not a Gibson
(not that I have anything against Gibsons, I own two currently including an SG) HeHasTheJazzHands
Well-Known Member
That one is a Jaydee not a Gibson
Well if you wanna be picky like that...
Bandersnatch
Twit
For me, the reason why I hate Fender and Gibson guitars so much is due to several reason. The first being they both have fat necks with a clear coat on them. It just doesn't feel natural and since my hands get sweaty, my left hand either sticks or slips around too much on them. The second being is because I find that Fender and Gibson are one trick ponies. They've had the same sound since the dawn of time and they just don't give me the flexibility or versatility of a brand like Ibanez. It's just to me, all Fenders sound the same and all Gibsons sound the same, whereas the different models of Ibanez guitars all have different characteristics.
That's simply not true. A Fender Modern C/D and a Gibson 60's are very close in dimensions to many Ibanez and Jackson guitars. I'm sitting here with my UV7 and Les Paul Traditional, and the necks, while certainly different, are both very playable. Now, my old Broadcaster reissue had a GIANT neck.
Just like every Ibanez (well, minus those with neck backs which are finished to the body color) that leaves the factory. Two of my three LPs have satin finished necks. Fender does do satin finishes on the necks as well. Not ever model, but a lot of them.
Both of these guitars are stock:
These are another pair:
See above. I love Ibanez too, but that's because 95% of my RGs have sounded exactly the same.
You can't say that a Telecaster and a Jazzmaster sound at all the same, or a Les Paul Deluxe and an SG Custom. The only thing those guitars share, for the most part, is the name on the headstock.
Basti
not much space to wr
Because you look at all the customs, sevens and ERG guitar porn on here and you're just like...I WANT MORE.
Grand Moff Tim
Some call me... Tim
Boy, Gibson just can't win there, can they? Either all their stuff is overpriced, or their affordable guitars are diluting the company.
I love my Buckethead LP Studio
Nothing wrong with protecting a company's interests. I honestly don't know if Gibson licenses out their ideas or not, though. Have those guys tried to obtain the right to build reproductions legally, or did they just build unlicensed reproductions and then get a letter from mean ol' Gibson?
Have you played any of the 2013 stuff? I used to shit all over the Special and Faded models, because they really were pretty mediocre, but it seems that Gibson has REALLY upped their game in the $800 to $1500 bracket. The bodies are no longer 3+ pieces, the fretboards are wonderfully put together, the fretwork is on par with their $2500 range, the hardware is solid, and the finish and dress options are very abundant.
I know GC and SA stock tons of them (last GC I went to have roughly a dozen or so T, J, and Tribute models. It's like night and day.
As for Gibson licensing, or in this case the refusal of, that's Gibson's right. It's not their fault that some builders rather profiteer of them than innovate on their own. If this was a small builder suing the big guy, would you really have the same issue?
Don Vito
Well-Known Member
This
Their cheap stuff isn't even that bad. My step dad's 09 Satin LP Studio is one of the best under 1k guitars I've ever played.
Compared to other guitars around that price, the craftsmanship is similar(not gonna lie), but the Gibsons have a warmer and more distinguishable tone IMO.
Curt
Where we're going we don't need neck pickups.
If Gibson would just do some maple fretboard, solid color, baritone Explorers... I wouldn't be looking into customs.
s_k_mullins
!@#$?!
So let's review some of the obviously well-thought-out and impartial reasons given for why Gibson and Fender suck...
1. They can't do metal.
2. Their reasonably priced guitars are poorly built.
3. Their well built guitars are too expensive.
4. Their necks are too fat.
5. They are one trick ponies.
6. They all sound the same.
7. They're old and outdated.
8. The ES-335 sucks.
9. They sue people who copy their designs.
Man, you guys give such good arguments. I have to thank some the well-educated users here for setting me straight. I can't believe I was such a fan of Gibson and Fender all these years and never realized they actually were horrible.
/sarcasm
1. They can't do metal.
2. Their reasonably priced guitars are poorly built.
3. Their well built guitars are too expensive.
4. Their necks are too fat.
5. They are one trick ponies.
6. They all sound the same.
7. They're old and outdated.
8. The ES-335 sucks.
9. They sue people who copy their designs.
Man, you guys give such good arguments. I have to thank some the well-educated users here for setting me straight. I can't believe I was such a fan of Gibson and Fender all these years and never realized they actually were horrible.
/sarcasm
