satchmo72
Well-Known Member
I buy what works for me, I have tried to branch out and own a start or PRS but for me Ibanez is it. Not that Fenders and Gibsons are bad guitars, they just dont work for my playing style and tone choices.
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People don't really hate Gibson & Fenders. Wannabe elite metal misicians on a few forums do. These two companies still probably sell more guitars than *all* the other builders combined.
I guess some rant on them because, owning somethign else, they want:
-to appear like they made an educated choice.
-to give value to theur guitars
-Self justify the price they paid for another brand.
Fender and Gibson don't offer all specs, but the specs they offer are good and convenient for an awful lot of people. The Gibson and Fender artist roster isn't exactly small fry, either.
I'm extremely happy with my LP studio 60s goldtop reissue.
The reason the strat and LP are still there pretty much unmodified after 50 years is just that they were good designs to start with. It's a guitar, not a cello, you have a limited leeway in spec variation for it to still be a guitar.
I own a Gibson, two Fenders, ESPs, a custom pointy, two ibbies, and I like all of them.
The honest truth is, we could probably do with two solidbodies and be done with it, one with single coils and one with humbuckers. All the rest is nitpicking and self justification for GAS.![]()
People don't really hate Gibson & Fenders. Wannabe elite metal misicians on a few forums do. These two companies still probably sell more guitars than *all* the other builders combined.
I guess some rant on them because, owning somethign else, they want:
-to appear like they made an educated choice.
-to give value to theur guitars
-Self justify the price they paid for another brand.
The reason the strat and LP are still there pretty much unmodified after 50 years is just that they were good designs to start with.
The honest truth is, we could probably do with two solidbodies and be done with it, one with single coils and one with humbuckers. All the rest is nitpicking and self justification for GAS.![]()
I guess some really gave made educated choices realising that $4k for a LP with hit or miss quality makes shit sense. Now while a Gibby LP is no Epi LP, there are lots more things I would rather spend my $4k on.
I guess some really gave made educated choices realising that $4k for a LP with hit or miss quality makes shit sense. Now while a Gibby LP is no Epi LP, there are lots more things I would rather spend my $4k on.
Few would argue the strat and the LP are FANTASTIC designs. All the hate is towards FMIC and TGGC and largely due to their sky high yet unjustified pricing.
I hate Gibson's CEO with a passion because of his probably-corrupt business practices and his disgusting cozying-up to the Tea Party after the feds raided their factory.
But they still make some excellent guitars. I've got a LP and an SG and like them both a whole lot.
Fender doesn't make anything that I'm interested in buying, but they're perfectly fine for what they are. And at least they haven't messed with Jackson too much since the buyout.
Well, as many have said before me, in a word they are "dynasaurs", and they ought to be allowed to go extinct or EVOLVE into more robust species.
Outside of certain CS and Reissue stuff, both Gibson and Fender pricing is amazingly fair.
Well, as many have said before me, in a word they are "dynasaurs", and they ought to be allowed to go extinct or EVOLVE into more robust species.
Well, that's the funny thing - Gibson tried to innovate (Robot, Min-ETune etc.) but their customers just want them to make more Les Pauls
Not necessarily, but innovation for the sake of change isn't very appealing if it doesn't bring something to the table.
They've had their time. Gibson has much better propensity towards heavier styles but Fenders haven't been pushed much farther than in the days of Iron Maiden. Both kinds of guitar are still widely used in mainstream acts (although PRS seems to be taking those over as well), i.e. when the music doesn't require anything ground-breaking or new from a guitar then you're likely to see a Fender or Gibson somewhere behind the spotlight.
We're so familiar with their look and sound that they just seem to provide very little potential for improvement or change.