The Carvin / Kiesel thread
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spudmunkey
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Yeah, if it's buckeye, it's $600, aaaaand maybe more because colors work best on tops with more cream colors, so there might be an upcharge for hand-selecting a specific top coloration.
AxRookie
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I'm so happy with my choice of a Kiesel JB200C, It's everything I always wanted in a guitar that nobody else had AND it's gorgeous to boot!
I just installed the Floyd Rose Hollow Point Intonation System which makes intonation sooo easy now! who needs a key now?
I just installed the Floyd Rose Hollow Point Intonation System which makes intonation sooo easy now! who needs a key now?
spudmunkey
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Looks like a cool upgrade to the Floyd. Hadn't seen those before.
Even when people own multiple Carvins/Kiesel's, it seems like the models that people are most likely to say its their favorite, is the Bolt+, SCB, Vader, JB24, and this one.
Even when people own multiple Carvins/Kiesel's, it seems like the models that people are most likely to say its their favorite, is the Bolt+, SCB, Vader, JB24, and this one.
spudmunkey
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I hope they show more of the double necks. These things are just nuts.
From what I can tell, this one would be just about at $4k with case. blue/Purple Color shift burst over their black magic metallic paint.
Ths thing is just unreal, too.
From what I can tell, this one would be just about at $4k with case. blue/Purple Color shift burst over their black magic metallic paint.
Ths thing is just unreal, too.
mbardu
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Hey I was right during the build...they did turn out fretless!
spudmunkey
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Intereatingly the color shift one, the buyer didnt go with the HAN (Hard As Nails) fretboard coating.
AxRookie
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I've made some changes or "upgrades" because there were a few things I wanted it to have because I've had them on other guitars and I know they worked great, These are the changes I've made...
Electronics Upgrades
N-Tune On Board Chromatic Tuner
Bourns Pro Push/Pull Audio Taper 500k Neck/500k Bridge Volume Pots, DPDT
Gavitt Braided Shielded Guitar Wire
Orange Drop .022µF 200V Polypropylene 715P Tone Capacitors
HDCustom Guitar Supply Premium Treble Bypass Filter/Treble Bleeds
Switchcraft 151 1/4" Mono 2 Conductor Thick Panel Mount Jack
Switch Mods
N-Tune On Board Chromatic Tuner-Push/Pull Switch on Neck Volume Pot
The Blower Switch-Push/Pull Bridge Pickup Bypass Switch on Bridge Volume Pot
The Kill Switch-Signal Cut Off Mini Toggle Switch
Standard Switches Retained
Pickups-Coil Split Mini Toggle Switches
3-Way Pickup Selector Switch
Floyd Rose Tremolo Upgrades
Hollow Point Intonation System
Graph Tech String Saver Saddles
Tungsten Sustain Block
SuperVee Maglok Trem Stabilizer
And I made a wiring custom schematic to make sure it would all work together...
And it all worked just as planned...
spudmunkey
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Another double neck posted today. The 8-string fretless neck looks to be an interesting string arrangement.
AxRookie
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I've never understood how fretless necks work?
Man, you wouldn't see a guitar like that coming from any other builders???
Kiesel/Carvin has come a long way in what they can do and offer...
spudmunkey
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Like a violin, cello, upright bass, etc. You have to have great muscle memory, and/or are very adept at vibrato for when you hit a note that's slightly "off". It doesn't sound as "crisp" as a metal fret. Kiesel also offers an option where they can inlay meterial into fret slots to act as fret markers, but they are perfectly smooth, so they aren't actually frets.
Here's a couple pics of the inlay lines:
AxRookie
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I would think the notes would sound rather dead/muted/lifeless sounding without breakaway for that end of the string to vibrate somewhat "freely"???
I guess the advantage offered by fretless would be notes that can't be found on a fretted guitar without string bending?
spudmunkey
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I wouldn't quite say that. less crisp, yes...but not lifeless. Imagine maybe...using a wood slide. There's a bit of the "mwah" sound that fretless bass players get. Vigier is one of the more frequent makers of fretless guitars, and they offer metal (don't know if it's solid or wrapped) fretboards. I think it gives a guitar a bit of a sitar sound.
One of the big things you can do it make any note or any chord you can finger sound like you're playing them with a slide.
That's one use, but seemingly not as common as a main reason.
AxRookie
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SnowfaLL
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If you wanna hear fretless thats not shred, Issei Noro from Casiopea has been playing fretless since the 80s? Only on certain songs, but its so great.
AxRookie
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Not really my thing but thank you for sharing that, you never know...
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A budget fretless guitar would be cool just to try it out and see if it is cool before spending a lot on a fretless.
Rondo used to get them in for as little as $300, but they went fast.
spudmunkey
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A pliers and wood putty is even cheaper. 
