The Carvin / Kiesel thread

[MaxOfMetal]

Just bought myself a DC747. Great guitar and so happy to have a Carvin again. It's incredibly comfortable

Nice!

Those old DCs are probably my favorite 7s from them. They definitely bring back some good memories.

 

[Hollowway]

Even without a virtual builder, and even without tinkering with the actual order-placement builder, there's still stupid little things they could do to make it so much more user-friendly as a resource, with very little investment.

On the "Guitars" and "Bass" pages, just have categories. Put a simple menu at the top, with different categories, and their options:

6 Strings
7 Strings
8 Strings
12 Strings

Models with headstocks
Headless models

Bolt-On neck construction
Neck-Through neck construction
Set Neck neck construction
Set-Through neck construction

24.75" scale length
25" scale length
25.5" scale length
26.5" scale length
27" scale length
Multiscale


etc etc.

Right now, you've just got one monolithic page with every model listed, with no clear organization.

Then, maybe once per month, they could roll-out a single page that just showcases and explains a specific option category. Like start with one page with all of their headstock shape options, and their names/codes. Then a month later, roll out a singe page with all of their headstock logo colors/materials. Then a page talking about the fretboard radius options, etc etc. Every so often, you'll have one that requires a little bit more of a deeper dive, like neck finishes. Then one that goes over the standard "back and sides" finish options, etc etc.

And some stuff is just wrong and contradictory. Like how on the main page it lists "Jason Becker Tribute 6 & 7 string guitars." But there is no such thing as a 7 string Becker guitar, so you can't actually build one.

 

[mbardu]

Nice!

Those old DCs are probably my favorite 7s from them. They definitely bring back some good memories.

Aaaahhhhh DC7x7 memories...
Lost most of my pictures but among the few that remain:

 

[Hollowway]

I’m distracted-boyfriending the 7x7s with Floyds these days. I traded away my 727 like 10 years ago, but given that Kiesel doesn’t do Floyds anymore, now I kind of want another one.

 

[Strtsmthng]

Aaaahhhhh DC7x7 memories...
Lost most of my pictures but among the few that remain:

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Wow, some awesome stuff there!!! Bridge is a Gotoh GTC on all of these?

 

[mbardu]

Wow, some awesome stuff there!!! Bridge is a Gotoh GTC on all of these?

Bridge was typical Carvin FT7 of those times.
Pretty solid and no-nonsense.

 

[maliciousteve]

Thanks guys. It's taking a little getting used to 7 string again. The pickups are letting the guitar down unfortunately, theyre a bit too 'fat' or 'rounded off' for me. I was considering getting an EVO 7 or Duncan Distortion 7 for the bridge but are the existing pickup routes going to be an issue?

 

[spudmunkey]

Thanks guys. It's taking a little getting used to 7 string again. The pickups are letting the guitar down unfortunately, theyre a bit too 'fat' or 'rounded off' for me. I was considering getting an EVO 7 or Duncan Distortion 7 for the bridge but are the existing pickup routes going to be an issue?

It depends, but likely yes. When the model was first released with the c26 pickups, the pickup routes were pretty under-sized. Later in it's life when they switched to the D26, they got a little bigger, but not a whole lot. Then they were enlarged again in the last few years of the model's life after they made their more-"standard" Lithium pickups the standard for that model. I dont remember off the top of my head, but if the model lasted long enough to be around when Kiesel released their 7-string pickup covers, the routes would have been enlarged again with more "squared off" corners to accommodate the covers...but I dont remember if the DC727/747 lasted that long.

 

[gunch]

The heyday of getting used DC747s For peanuts is over, isn’t it

 

[maliciousteve]

The heyday of getting used DC747s For peanuts is over, isn’t it

this one was just under £1000 so yeah, prices are creeping up. I bought the DC135 around 2008 for £400, shows how things have changed.

These are the C26 pickups so looks like I may run into some trouble.

 

[mbardu]

The heyday of getting used DC747s For peanuts is over, isn’t it

I bought the all-koa flamed maple neck above for 600$ at the time iiirc

 

[KnightBrolaire]

The heyday of getting used DC747s For peanuts is over, isn’t it

all the used carvins and kiesels are going up in price.

 

[spudmunkey]

A good

These are the C26 pickups so looks like I may run into some trouble.

The guitar has a flat top, so a good tech, with a sharp router bit and good prep can, it's not impossible. If you're open to pickup rings, that can actually even "hide" a less-then-perfect routing job.

Alternatively, you might be able to get the stock pickup re-wound. If I remember right, re-winds are something Wolftone and Guitarmory does, or at least did at one point...but I don't know if they still do, or if they've ever done it with the older Carvin pickups.

Carvin reminds me a lot of Tandy. For a while, parts, softrware and even peripherals had to be "Tandy Compatible" or "For Tandy"...but eventually, evolved into being more in parity with the rest of the PC industry, and eventually re-named their company (to Radio Shack, in the case of Tandy).

 

[BigViolin]

I have a Carvin DC7x and I fit some BKPs by carefully filing about .5 mm from each (long) side of the metal baseplate on the pickups. No wood removal needed.

 

[mbardu]

New model announcement in 20 minutes.
I bet it's an explorer now that I finally no longer need one

 

[spudmunkey]

Hyperdrive:
6 & 7
Regular and multiscale
Hipshot fixed, Floyd, or Hipshot/Kiesel
Comes standard with black limba body wings
Has a 1.37lb stainless counterweight to improve balance, can be built without it. Under 8lbs average for the 6 without it.
Can be had with a "bevel delete"

25.5" scale standard, 6 is optionally available in 24.75.
Multiscale 6: 25.5-26.5", 7 string is 25.5-27"

"Yes" to lefty

8-string could come in the future, but it'd depend on success of the 6 and 7, and would need to test it since it would need to be tested with the extended scale.

 

[KnightBrolaire]

that is quite possibly the worst explorer take they could have done. It's lumpy looking, like he beveled off too much of a regular explorer body in the name of Kieseling it.


I would throw money at them left and right if they'd just make their headless type V shapes flipped.

 

[r3tr0sp3ct1v3]

Lol it looks like a 5 year old's drawing of an explorer.

I kind like it. Idk why. If it came in 8 maybe I would jump on.

 

[Dumple Stilzkin]

Hyperdrive:
6 & 7
Regular and multiscale
Hipshot fixed, Floyd, or Hipshot/Kiesel
Comes standard with black limba body wings
Has a 1.37lb stainless counterweight to improve balance, can be built without it. Under 8lbs average for the 6 without it.
Can be had with a "bevel delete"

25.5" scale standard, 6 is optionally available in 24.75.
Multiscale 6: 25.5-26.5", 7 string is 25.5-27"

"Yes" to lefty

8-string could come in the future, but it'd depend on success of the 6 and 7, and would need to test it since it would need to be tested with the extended scale.



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My eyes!!!

 

[Mathemagician]

that is quite possibly the worst explorer take they could have done. It's lumpy looking, like he beveled off too much of a regular explorer body in the name of Kieseling it.


I would throw money at them left and right if they'd just make their headless type V shapes flipped.

Gonna go against the grain here and say I think it looks cool.