The Devin Townsend Supermegathread!

[drmosh]

well, if the ultra costs about 1500$, it should be about 1500€ with shipping and taxes and blabla... thats 600€ less than the German price

that doesn't make sense
to ship it, it would cost the 1500 for the unit, 19% sales tax for germany, 11% customs charge for import, and the shipping which will be pretty expensive for that unit to get it safely across the pond.
so:
1500 + 285 + 165 + 100? = 2050 Euros for the import version.

 

[Turgon]

11%??? I thought about 4% and shipping 100 bucks

 

[angryman]

Man,,,,,Dev's awesome! Plays some seriously crazy ass shit lol!

 

[ShadyDavey]

11%??? I thought about 4% and shipping 100 bucks

Unfortunately not amigo - DrMosh is spot on with his maths.

 

[drmosh]

11%??? I thought about 4% and shipping 100 bucks

I think it's 11% for electronic goods, I could be wrong since the law changed.
I did calculate 100 bucks for shipping, but you will always have to pay the 19% mwst too

 

[Turgon]

ok, so I have 1600$ for Axe and shipping, which are about 1180€.

+ 19% = 1180 + 225 = 1405€

+ 11% = 1405€ + 155€ = 1560€...

I think the difference to 2099€ (european price for axe ultra) is still noticeable


Edit: argh, the Ultra is about 1999$... well... the difference is marginal...

 

[drmosh]

ok, so I have 1600$ for Axe and shipping, which are about 1180€.

+ 19% = 1180 + 225 = 1405€

+ 11% = 1405€ + 155€ = 1560€...

I think the difference to 2099€ (european price for axe ultra) is still noticeable


Edit: argh, the Ultra is about 1999$... well... the difference is marginal...

hehe, you noticed your error
Still, shipped in bulk as a company i THINK that the customs charges fall, then you can also buy the things tax free in the US. So the european price still doesn't seem justified

 

[Andromalia]

that doesn't make sense
to ship it, it would cost the 1500 for the unit, 19% sales tax for germany, 11% customs charge for import, and the shipping which will be pretty expensive for that unit to get it safely across the pond.
so:
1500 + 285 + 165 + 100? = 2050 Euros for the import version.

Er, no.
We start with 1500$ right.
Let's assume 150$ shipping for a UPS-like courier.

That's 1650$. Hello euro land.
We're now at 1225€.
Add 19% VAT->1457€
Add 11% customs : 1618€

Irish VAT is 21% but no import taxes so I'd get for 1457€.

If we talk about the ultra the % are the same, of course the gross result of % will be even more unbalanced.

To be 2050€ your retailer is pocketing a (roughly) 25% margin.
The point to remember how hurtful it may be over the atlantic, 1$ is NOT worth 1 €. (And hasn't since a looong time now)


Basically, that's the kind of markups that make US brands so expensive in Europe and gave way to the rise of Engl over Mesa Boogie in Europe. 3600€ for a road king head ?????
the issue is, Fractal won't ship to Europe to protect its distributor market. (And pocket a part of the 25% as part of the business deal in addition to the price fo the Axe-FX itself, that's how it works).

Anyway, the point of commerce is to get away with whatever you can get, contrary to all the political speeches of "friendly competition" blablah. Commerce is "getting money in my pocket instead of yours".

 

[drmosh]

Er, no.
We start with 1500$ right.
Let's assume 150$ shipping for a UPS-like courier.

That's 1650$. Hello euro land.
We're now at 1225€.
Add 19% VAT->1457€
Add 11% customs : 1618€

Irish VAT is 21% but no import taxes so I'd get for 1457€.

If we talk about the ultra the % are the same, of course the gross result of % will be even more unbalanced.

I was talking about the ultra version, which is $1999
so:
errr, yes.

And as for the rest of your post, that is patently clear to me and always has been. Doesn't mean I have to find it fair

 

[Variant]

His tone, good as always. His playing, great as always. Those reflections he gets, phenomenal... as always. I wish he'd give some tips on how he gets that sound.

 

[Gitte]

i love that spacy clean sound

 

[eleven59]

His tone, good as always. His playing, great as always. Those reflections he gets, phenomenal... as always. I wish he'd give some tips on how he gets that sound.

Yeah, his delays are always so clear, like this backdrop behind everything he's playing, without muddying up his main tone. It's incredible.

 

[Joel]

Wow, really nice video there. His tone is always great though

 

[MF_Kitten]

he digs out his skullet that he saved in a box, and donates it to Ziltoid!

 

[13point9]

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/off-topic/116919-ziltoid-tv-show.html

 

[MF_Kitten]

oh of course, i was ninja´d by a post in the OFF TOPIC SECTION?!

 

[13point9]

ah didnt pay attention to the actual forum it was in >.<

 

[atimoc]

OK, that's actually a bit disturbing, even by Devin's standards

 

[dewy]

I can't fucking believe he actually KEPT the skullet. oh my god. so fucking perfect.

 

[Pauly]

I read about the skullet thing via Twitter, quite amusing. Can't wait for moar Ziltoid.