The Official Agile ERG Thread

[darren]

For me, it's not just the diameter of the main hole, but also the position of the stabilizing screw. I don't like the idea of having to fill and re-drill holes in my headstock.

 

[jamesmafyew]

For me, it's not just the diameter of the main hole, but also the position of the stabilizing screw. I don't like the idea of having to fill and re-drill holes in my headstock.

Good point.

Unrelated question: are the truss rods both threaded the same way? I adjusted the bass side and it seems normal, but the treble side seems to be more difficult to turn LEFT than right. I don't want to keep adjusting unless I know for a fact that they're threaded the same way...

 

[djohns74]

You can better tension-match the low B by using the 9-42 6-string set and using a .056 single there (B1 .056 nw == 18.64#)

I came to the same conclusion and ordered exactly that, though with a .074 since that's what was available and should be plenty close enough for me. Should arrive tomorrow or Friday, will report back then.

 

[gunshow86de]

For what it's worth, I already have Schaller lockers on my Intrepid. The post holes were a direct fit, but the small screw that's on the tab on the backside does not line up. You either have to make a new hole, or angle the screw slightly to start it in the hole. You have to unwind the string though to make it fit. Schallers only take up to a .056.

On another note, does anyone else's forearm hurt from playing your Intrepid? Mine is so sore today, I'm not used to the big stretches. Of course, I played for about 5-6 hours yesterday, so that might have some effect.

 

[FlamesOfDestiny]

Quick question, guys. I'm planning on pre-ordering an Intrepid today, but I'm not 100% set on which model. I was really thinking the Pro Dual if they're available, but now I'm thinking about the Standard Dual.

Does anyone know the difference in the thickness and length of the heel between the Standard and the Pro? I do quite a bit of high-neck playing, but I definitely don't want or need a trem.

Thanks!

 

[Nightside]

I really dont mind the extra holes in the headstock. I can cover them up somehow. I ordered 2 sets of hipshot lockers for both of my intrepids. I installed Sperzels on my flying V and I had to drill it out to accept a .056

Just another note on the Sperzels and why I dont use them anymore. If your hands sweat when you play like mine do and you play with the tuners the black finish will quickly turn purple. I dont like the finishing process on the black Sperzels. I believe its anodized aluminum. I prefer the regular black finish on Grovers, Schallers, etc.

 

[Beta]

Schallers only take up to a .056.

This is a minor derail (I'm watching the thread because I want to see what people are saying about these guitars, and I'm GASsing), but I have a set of Schallers on my LTD, and I'm using a standard D'Addario .010-.059 set, which works with some effort.

Not that .003 makes a significant difference, so, sorry.

 

[Urbane]

I know that suposivley some intrepids were supposed to be on sale today ,march 3rd was it just the bloodburst standard or when are the other suppose to be on sale

thanks,

 

[MFB]

It's now 5 o'clock EST and I still see no pre-orders for the Standard Intrepid 8 or any other for that matter. Is Kurt not doing them until the extras are sold? Or does the price on the site not say it's a pre-order?

 

[Urbane]

well i had emailed him a while ago and he said dual pickup pros were going to be released this next run and i am waiting for that to happen but i thought they might be released today which is when he said they would be

 

[peavey_impact]

Orgasm

Can someone please tell me how I can purchase one of these guitars? I'm sort of a noob to these boards and haven't read this whole thread. I want this exact guitar but with a maple board. It's so gorgeous

 

[darren]

Your best bet is to go to rondomusic.com and sign up for their email newsletter. You'll get first notice of when new models are avaialble for ordering.

 

[Galius]

There were some listed the other day but dissappeard before the actual order date was here. I had money put in my paypal for one but now im gonna have to wait until next run.

Can someone please tell me how I can purchase one of these guitars? I'm sort of a noob to these boards and haven't read this whole thread. I want this exact guitar but with a maple board. It's so gorgeous

 

[highlordmugfug]

Apologizing in advance if this makes no sense. Taking drugs, had wisdom teeth removed, stayinf drugged, feel no pain, am superman, anywho: Back to business:

Technically today if you're on the east coast

A literal date would be March 11th

Cool, I'll check the site.

String tension info for those who care:

The stock specs for the Intrepid are for a tension-matched set at between 16-17 pounds:

len 28.625"
E4 .009" PL == 16.55#
B3 .012" PL == 16.52#
G3 .015" PL == 16.25#
D3 .022" nw == 16.81#
A2 .030" nw == 17.71#
E2 .040" nw == 16.94#
B1 .054 nw == 17.1#
F1# .072 nw == 17.09#
total == 134.97#


D'Addario's 9-42 7-string set, + a .075, yield:

len 28.625"
E4 .009" PL == 16.55#
B3 .011" PL == 13.87#
G3 .016" PL == 18.5#
D3 .024" nw == 19.87#
A2 .032" nw == 19.87#
E2 .042" nw == 18.61#
B1 .054 nw == 17.1#
F1# .075 nw == 18.44#
total == 142.82#

You can better tension-match the low B by using the 9-42 6-string set and using a .056 single there (B1 .056 nw == 18.64#)


If you're interested in tuning like Meshuggah, here's their configuration (notice the correction for the 30.5" scale of their custom guitars):

len 30.5"
E4b .009" PL == 16.74#
B3b .011" PL == 14.03#
G3b .016" PL == 18.71#
D3b .026" nw == 23.46#
A2b .036" nw == 24.9#
E2b .046" nw == 22.28#
B1b .052 nw == 15.74#
F1 .070 nw == 16.4# (Meshuggah uses a bass string)
total == 152.27#


On the Intrepid, a D'Addario 10-59 7-string set + 80 will get you pretty close, with more even tension:

len 28.625"
E4b .010" PL == 18.2#
B3b .013" PL == 17.27#
G3b .017" PL == 18.6#
D3b .026" nw == 20.66#
A2b .036" nw == 21.93#
E2b .046" nw == 19.63#
B1b .059 nw == 18.5#
F1 .080 nw == 18.61#
total == 153.41#

Thank you very much sir.

The "official" specs on the mini-rotomatics seem to say they require a ~10mm post hole, which is pretty standard, even for full-size Gibson tuners. But if Darren is right, who knows --- you should take out a tuning machine and measure the post hole with calipers (or at least a good ruler).

The stock tuning machines on the Intrepid (at least the one I have) don't take larger than a .060 either, so not much of a change there. I had to unwind the end of an ACTUAL .072 to fit -- as opposed to the .060 the guitar came with.

Stewmac has really good schematic specs on all the tuning machines they sell and their prices are very comepitive -- that might make things easier.

Can I drill out the hole to fir the string size I need/want? Like a .072 like the guitar was supposed to have? I remember someone suggesting this at one point. Is this possible?

 

[troyguitar]

Can I drill out the hole to fir the string size I need/want? Like a .072 like the guitar was supposed to have? I remember someone suggesting this at one point. Is this possible?

Yeah you can do that, no problem. That's what I would/will do myself. Way easier than unwinding the end of the string...

Just make sure you file it nice and smooth afterward - you don't want to break the string at the tuner.

 

[TomAwesome]

They're up, along with a couple of sexy Interceptors. It doesn't look like much has been added to what was already up there, but that's still a decent selection.

Edit: It looks like the site hasn't been updated, but the email that got sent out also had:

http://www.rondomusic.com/intrepidstdbbmn.html

http://www.rondomusic.com/product2468.html

http://www.rondomusic.com/product2450.html

I wonder why there's a lack of Pro models. Oh well, that just makes me all the more glad I jumped on that dual-passive Pro the other day.

 

[gunshow86de]

Ready for a buzz kill?

I'm going to have to sell my Intrepid already. I have pretty bad psoratic arthritis and I just can't handle the extreme stretches that I have to perform on it. After playing for about 20 minutes today, I could barely hold a glass of water.

I've got it posted in the classifieds for anyone who is interested.

 

[Slayer89]

I just put up a number of new and better shots of my Oceanburst pro in my NGD thread. Here's one of them.

 

[yellowv]

I just put up a number of new and better shots of my Oceanburst pro in my NGD thread. Here's one of them.

Is it just the lighting in the pics or did they miss a spot in the stain right under the neck?

 

[Galius]

I just got my bloodburst pro and it has the same thing going on. Its not too bad though. Looks like there is a bit of excess glue or filler on the edges of the frets as well. They really do need to take care of the tuner hole on the low string though. I noticed that all of the neck plays absolutely perfect but the 7th fret on the low string. Mabey my guitar guy can fix it once I get my sets of strings and get the low tuning peg drilled out. I went with 9-11-16-24-32-42-52-70, that look good for this guitar?

Is it just the lighting in the pics or did they miss a spot in the stain right under the neck?