The Official Agile ERG Thread

[chaosforclarity]

Ive yet to restring mine but that .056 and .074 sound like a good idea. Though I was thinking .060 for the B string. I havent decided yet but the stock strings definitely need changed out.

 

[proggm]

Tomorrow is the day! I think I won't be able to sleep

 

[Galius]

I ended up going with the ernie ball 7 string regular slinky set and added a 70 to make it 10-13-17-26-36-46-56-70. Seemed to make sense to me. On my 7 strings I use power slinkys at 11-14-18p-28-38-48-58 so it should work out closely. I dont get why there is such a jump on the low B and F# on the intrepid specs (54 to 72). It didnt make sense to the luthier I have working on my intrepid but he suggested the strings I actually got.

 

[troyguitar]

If you want even tension, a big jump like that is necessary.

 

[djohns74]

I'm not going to say it makes intuitive sense, but if you use a tension calculator, you find that with the bottom three strings at .042, .056 and .075, all three have tension within .2 lbs of each other, and more than a full pound LESS than the .024 and .032 D and A above them.

 

[TomAwesome]

I ended up going with the ernie ball 7 string regular slinky set and added a 70 to make it 10-13-17-26-36-46-56-70. Seemed to make sense to me. On my 7 strings I use power slinkys at 11-14-18p-28-38-48-58 so it should work out closely. I dont get why there is such a jump on the low B and F# on the intrepid specs (54 to 72). It didnt make sense to the luthier I have working on my intrepid but he suggested the strings I actually got.

The relationship between the change in gauge and the change in tension from string to string isn't linear. With the four strings you have that all increase by .010" from string to string, I bet the tension gets lower each string down. To keep the tension more balanced, not only does the gauge have to increase from string to string, but the amount you increase the gauges by from string to string has to go up, too. You wouldn't string up a guitar with 10-13-16-19-22-25, would you?

 

[djohns74]

With the four strings you have that all increase by .010" from string to string, I bet the tension gets lower each string down.

Indeed. Those bottom two strings especially are going to feel downright floppy compared to the rest.

len 28.625"

E4  .010" PL == 20.43#
B3  .013" PL == 19.38#
G3  .017" PL == 20.88#
D3  .026" NW == 23.19#
A2 .036" NW == 24.62#
E2 .046" NW == 22.03#
B1 .056" NW == 18.64#
F1# .070" NW == 16.22#

 

[demolisher]

Yeah on my bass right now I have a .150 and a .100 for drop tunings and the .100 is still 4 pounds higher tension than the .150, notice how the higher strings you change in .01 and even .005 increments and the lower strings are huge increments.

 

[jamesmafyew]

The relationship between the change in gauge and the change in tension from string to string isn't linear. With the four strings you have that all increase by .010" from string to string, I bet the tension gets lower each string down. To keep the tension more balanced, not only does the gauge have to increase from string to string, but the amount you increase the gauges by from string to string has to go up, too. You wouldn't string up a guitar with 10-13-16-19-22-25, would you?

Yeah I found that with a set of 10-46 I needed a 60 and an 80 on the bottom two for the tension to be reasonably close.

 

[darren]

Sorry to quote this so late, but the reason I had asked was because this page said that the Grover tuning hole drilled was larger than that of the Sperzel, which would mean the Sperzels wouldn't fit, right?

According to StewMac, the diameter of the part of the tuner that goes through the headstock are as follows:

Grover: .390" (9.91 mm)

Sperzel: .380" (9.66 mm)

Not a huge difference.

 

[Galius]

They actually felt pretty good when he got done. If I have to I can add switch to a slightly larger F# string later on.

Indeed. Those bottom two strings especially are going to feel downright floppy compared to the rest.

len 28.625"
 
E4  .010" PL == 20.43#
B3  .013" PL == 19.38#
G3  .017" PL == 20.88#
D3  .026" NW == 23.19#
A2 .036" NW == 24.62#
E2 .046" NW == 22.03#
B1 .056" NW == 18.64#
F1# .070" NW == 16.22#

 

[jamesmafyew]

I got my action quite a bit lower by carefully filing the nut --- I set the slot depths so that the first fret action was the same as the width of the string. No open string buzz, and a lot of existing fret buzz went away --- which tells me I was working too hard to press down the strings in the lower fret range. I think that caused me to monkey around with the truss rod when I didn't need to.

Now the action is at 1.5 mm treble side 12th fret, and 2.8mm bass side 12th fret. Does that seem more or less right?

 

[Wound]

Here's a couple of pics my wife took ,while I was at work, of my Intrepid Standard Dual GhostBurst:

For some reason it looks really grey in her photos...it's got more black in it around the edges as you can see in the bottom of the top photo. The black on it is seethrough...you can tell that more on the back of it...I'll prolly post some more photos later. Anyway..I am really happy with it. I like the looks of it and it sounds amazing!

I got a 9-59 sevenstring set on it pluss an 80 for the low E, that set seems to work great for me. On my other Intrepid I have a 10-52 6 string set plus either a 66 or 64 for the A and an 80 for the low E. I found those strings to be abit tight for my liking. I tune to drop A with a low E by the way.

 

[elrrek]

That is awesome. Grrrrrrr. I need one of these.

 

[Hollowway]

I got my action quite a bit lower by carefully filing the nut --- I set the slot depths so that the first fret action was the same as the width of the string. No open string buzz, and a lot of existing fret buzz went away --- which tells me I was working too hard to press down the strings in the lower fret range. I think that caused me to monkey around with the truss rod when I didn't need to.

Now the action is at 1.5 mm treble side 12th fret, and 2.8mm bass side 12th fret. Does that seem more or less right?

Yeah, that sounds good. I try to get my high E at 1.7 mm (basically under 2) and the low F at 2.0 or so. But, until later today (I'm sitting here waiting for UPS) I haven't set up an 8 string, so I would think the 2.8 is right. Glad to hear you got it worked out! I'm prayin' I don't have to mess with the nut height on mine, tho.

 

[rob_l]

My Bloodburst Pro showed up yesterday - Setup was spot on according to my peterson and hands - lol. Pics...

Heres a gallery - Agile Intrepid Pro Bloodburst

 

[Hollowway]

I don't know if it's your camera or what, but that is the nicest bloodburst I've seen yet. Glad to hear it came perfectly set up, too!

 

[bs_tritonus]

nice studio rob! Love your guitar too!

 

[chaosforclarity]

Very nice pics rob. I agree, that bloodburst looks amazing.

 

[peavey_impact]

Here's a couple of pics my wife took ,while I was at work, of my Intrepid Standard Dual GhostBurst:

It looks like the whole left side of the guitar has no black on the edge

Is there any chance of you posting a full frontal shot of the whole guitar?

My mapleboard ghostburst should be in Wednesday; I really hope I dig it.