TRENCHLORD
Banned
Anybody pickin Tito over little Nog, or Mir over Big Nog? I am both.
edit; Lets not talk about Bisping, alright (lol).
edit; Lets not talk about Bisping, alright (lol).
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Shogun
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Idk about tito but i'll definitely take frank mir, seeing as how he pretty much dominated in ther first fight
skoatdestroy
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i think little nog is overrated and i give the fight to tito, big nog on the other hand is a fucking badass but at the same time im a big mir fan so i dont know who to call in this fight but i think nog is gonna try to force it to the ground and make it a grappling match and who knows whats gonna happen there
Shogun
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Looks like jon jones is gonna be champion for a long time. As disappointed as i am that machida lost. I gotta give jones props. The only real challenge left for him is dan henderson, maybe rashad but i think jones would beat both of them. It's safe to say he's the real deal.
Did anyone see big nog's arm get snapped ? That shit looked nasty
Did anyone see big nog's arm get snapped ? That shit looked nasty
TRENCHLORD
Banned
No, I'll have to wait see it on MMA Live or on Spike (dammit).
Not supprised though with Mir, at the post fight he was saying he'd fill in for Overeem in a couple weeks if he was to pull out VS Lesner because of a rumored injury (Dana White played dumb about it).
I really think it's time for Tito to hang it up after this loss.
With Jones, I'd say Hendo should get him next. Hendo's had some magic lately, but he'd be way way undersized for this one.
Evans is quick and a great wrestler, but his chin is not exactly made of steel, so I'd give him very little chance against Jones, Rua, Machida (saw what happened last time lol).
As for the heavys, Cain and JDS are still the best IMO.
If they get to hook it up again I could see it going the other way or not.
They both have the power and quickness to defeat the rest of the division so why not just rematch them. Not normally the thing to do after a one minute KO, but I doubt Cain would come out boxing this time. He did try to take Jr. down last time, but was overly concerned with where he'd end up on the ground. Next time he just needs to get him tackled no matter what.
Not supprised though with Mir, at the post fight he was saying he'd fill in for Overeem in a couple weeks if he was to pull out VS Lesner because of a rumored injury (Dana White played dumb about it).
I really think it's time for Tito to hang it up after this loss.
With Jones, I'd say Hendo should get him next. Hendo's had some magic lately, but he'd be way way undersized for this one.
Evans is quick and a great wrestler, but his chin is not exactly made of steel, so I'd give him very little chance against Jones, Rua, Machida (saw what happened last time lol).
As for the heavys, Cain and JDS are still the best IMO.
If they get to hook it up again I could see it going the other way or not.
They both have the power and quickness to defeat the rest of the division so why not just rematch them. Not normally the thing to do after a one minute KO, but I doubt Cain would come out boxing this time. He did try to take Jr. down last time, but was overly concerned with where he'd end up on the ground. Next time he just needs to get him tackled no matter what.
Shogun
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UFC 141 Main Event : Brock Lesnar Vs Alistair Overeem
Who y'all got ? I've got overeem in this one
Who y'all got ? I've got overeem in this one
Phrygian
Lefty
Overeem for sure! That dude is a beast.
Btw, anyone see this?
Phuket NEWS: Manhunt launched for Phuket MMA brawler
Btw, anyone see this?
Phuket NEWS: Manhunt launched for Phuket MMA brawler
TRENCHLORD
Banned
Hahahaha, so they're on the hunt for Judy Browning.
Man I couldn't stand him on UF show. He really needs a good one to squash his little
man/woman syndrome (would probably just make it worse lol).
I'm picking Lesnar because I think he can control Overeem, whom I think is over rated.
Overeem was a K1 champ, but thats also where Bob Sapp had success so I don't give it much creadence here (in the UFC). And as a fan I just don't like Overeem.
Seen several of Overeem's strikeforce bouts and find him just plain unaggressive.
Man I couldn't stand him on UF show. He really needs a good one to squash his little
man/woman syndrome (would probably just make it worse lol).
I'm picking Lesnar because I think he can control Overeem, whom I think is over rated.
Overeem was a K1 champ, but thats also where Bob Sapp had success so I don't give it much creadence here (in the UFC). And as a fan I just don't like Overeem.
Seen several of Overeem's strikeforce bouts and find him just plain unaggressive.
HOKENSTYFE
HeartWyrm
Best to just bury Browning!
As for Overeem/Lesnar...I wasn't impressed with Overeem's last fight against Werdum! Stats had Werdum winning the stand-up! Watching that fight, I could not figure why Werdum kept going to his bread & butter!?! Overeem was getting caught at will!
That being said, I am not a big fan of Lesnar. If he is healthy, if he doesn't duck the stand-up, Lesnar should over-power Overeem! The problem for Lesnar, he doesn't like getting hit in the face, as well as a long lay-off!
I got Lesnar. First/second round submission.
Off-topic/related- Gilbert Melendez needs to go up in weight class, to 170. I feel he's the only one who has a chance of beating 'Rush' Pierre! (Maybe Diaz)
As for Overeem/Lesnar...I wasn't impressed with Overeem's last fight against Werdum! Stats had Werdum winning the stand-up! Watching that fight, I could not figure why Werdum kept going to his bread & butter!?! Overeem was getting caught at will!
That being said, I am not a big fan of Lesnar. If he is healthy, if he doesn't duck the stand-up, Lesnar should over-power Overeem! The problem for Lesnar, he doesn't like getting hit in the face, as well as a long lay-off!
I got Lesnar. First/second round submission.
Off-topic/related- Gilbert Melendez needs to go up in weight class, to 170. I feel he's the only one who has a chance of beating 'Rush' Pierre! (Maybe Diaz)
TRENCHLORD
Banned
Brock does kinda hate getting hit in the face. He just needs to pretend it's football for a moment and get the guy tackled, then hope for the best.
Same for anyone going up against Dos Santos. (which Lesnar stated he would do if given the chance)
(one fight at a time Brock, seeing though you've got your head caved the last couple outings, huhuhuh)
As for GSP, I can't see Diaz beating him. I kinda feel like it'll take a bigger guy coming down to beat him.
Ultimately I think so many years training at that level will take him down sooner than anyone else will.
Same for anyone going up against Dos Santos. (which Lesnar stated he would do if given the chance)
(one fight at a time Brock, seeing though you've got your head caved the last couple outings, huhuhuh)
As for GSP, I can't see Diaz beating him. I kinda feel like it'll take a bigger guy coming down to beat him.
Ultimately I think so many years training at that level will take him down sooner than anyone else will.
HOKENSTYFE
HeartWyrm
I think Lesnar is talking his way into relevancy! One more loss, first round k.o.! I don't know, but he may be fighting Stefan Strive on Versus, superbowl Sunday. How funny would that be? Hahaha!
Too easy, GSP, couldn't handle Charles Sonnen, Silva etc. Those guys are too used to a heavier weight. If they timed right, kept there strength, at a lighter weight, I don't see George standing much of a chance. Would love to see GSP vs. Sanchez, (said Melendez), Guida, Pettis maybe even Guillard( frustrating watching that kid). A younger guy, maybe more naturally athletic! But you know what...Belfort vs. Rush...I could go for that!
Too easy, GSP, couldn't handle Charles Sonnen, Silva etc. Those guys are too used to a heavier weight. If they timed right, kept there strength, at a lighter weight, I don't see George standing much of a chance. Would love to see GSP vs. Sanchez, (said Melendez), Guida, Pettis maybe even Guillard( frustrating watching that kid). A younger guy, maybe more naturally athletic! But you know what...Belfort vs. Rush...I could go for that!
Solodini
MORE RESTS!
I was pretty disappointed about Rory MacDonald being injured as I kinda see him as like a younger GSP. In a few years, I think it'd be nice to see the two of them face each other.
HOKENSTYFE
HeartWyrm
McDonald...he hasn't fought anybody of note! Yeah he absolutely abused Lil' Diaz and had his way with that other guy(?) But at 155, there is a ton of talent he's got to get through, until he's even close to GSP. Yes, without a shadow of a doubt, when given the opportunity, Rory McDonald is a man-beast!
I just think a little too soon for him to be mentioned with 'Rush'!
I just think a little too soon for him to be mentioned with 'Rush'!
Solodini
MORE RESTS!
I was thinking stylistic familiarity. His training seems to come from a good place, as well, as everything he does seems to be used as though one fluid discipline, rather than a bunch of stuff smudged together.
HOKENSTYFE
HeartWyrm
Absolutely! Similar in their fluidity! I was referring to threshold, test of will! Rush found his apon lose to Hughes! When McDonald finally has that test, how will he fair. Up until that first fight with Hughes, GSP beat very good fighters, making him the number one contender! It's just that we ALL have seen promise in a ton of fighters, that just hasn't panned out! McDonald will have to make a believer out of me before I put money down on the kid!
There was a friend of GSP that I thought was going to be the next 185 champ...David Loeasto(butchered last name/ black Canadian), loved that guy! Great stamina, elbows reverse thrust kicks, all the tools. Ran in to Franklin. He never got back to the top!
Just sayin', show & prove! But...Good Luck to him!
There was a friend of GSP that I thought was going to be the next 185 champ...David Loeasto(butchered last name/ black Canadian), loved that guy! Great stamina, elbows reverse thrust kicks, all the tools. Ran in to Franklin. He never got back to the top!
Just sayin', show & prove! But...Good Luck to him!
TRENCHLORD
Banned
Man, I'm hellaciously exicited about the next FOX card in late January from Chicago.
We got,
1st fight - Bisping vs Maia 185
2nd fight - Sonnan vs Munoz 185
3rd fight - Evans vs Davis 205
Not sure if we're getting prelims free or not.
I'm really going to have to ponder these awhile to make my picks.
Best fight 4sure IMO is Sonnan vs Munoz.
We got,
1st fight - Bisping vs Maia 185
2nd fight - Sonnan vs Munoz 185
3rd fight - Evans vs Davis 205
Not sure if we're getting prelims free or not.
I'm really going to have to ponder these awhile to make my picks.
Best fight 4sure IMO is Sonnan vs Munoz.
skoatdestroy
Well-Known Member
anyone watch the strikeforce card last night cyborg should be put up against guys in the featherweight devision i think she would do good, that chick is fucking scary
TRENCHLORD
Banned
I didn't see last night, but have seen her fight several times.She is one scary lady/b----.
Like a female tyson, only with a deeper voice
.I think we'd have to go even smaller with the men for a good co-ed match. Like maybe Cyborg vs 98 pounders (not meant in a porno way).
HOKENSTYFE
HeartWyrm
Sonnen vs. Munoz on that Fox card will be a massacre. Munoz is not capable of handling Sonnen, at all! Munoz has gotten lucky, the past (2) years! Leben is just a puncher, not to surprising to confuse him. He was out & almost beaten by Kendall Grove!
Bisping vs. Maia, very interesting! Especially since Maia was embarrassed by Silva and decided to improve his striking abilities. Push
As for Davis, he's going to be revealed for just being an overly-athletic brother, with no real specific skills, just like Ovince St. Preaux was last night!
The Fox cards, I believe, are going to take a while to get into a good groove. Fox is going to try and sell this sport to the casual Fox fan, instead of letting the sport sell itself! A one hour show, this being the first Fox show, only one fight that lasted two minutes. Not surprising when a guy defending his title hasn't fought in a year or more.
It really doesn't matter that Fox isn't making the fights. How Fox is setting up the show IS important! Plus, with Dana White not letting unique characters shine through, like Paul Daley, this might just be the boring end of the cycle!
Bisping vs. Maia, very interesting! Especially since Maia was embarrassed by Silva and decided to improve his striking abilities. Push
As for Davis, he's going to be revealed for just being an overly-athletic brother, with no real specific skills, just like Ovince St. Preaux was last night!
The Fox cards, I believe, are going to take a while to get into a good groove. Fox is going to try and sell this sport to the casual Fox fan, instead of letting the sport sell itself! A one hour show, this being the first Fox show, only one fight that lasted two minutes. Not surprising when a guy defending his title hasn't fought in a year or more.
It really doesn't matter that Fox isn't making the fights. How Fox is setting up the show IS important! Plus, with Dana White not letting unique characters shine through, like Paul Daley, this might just be the boring end of the cycle!
TRENCHLORD
Banned
I'd like to have seen a Munoz vs Stann match. I agree that Munoz is in over his head, but I'm not ready to dismiss his puncher's chance.
Munoz kept getting caught around the neck vs Leban though, which really doesn't say much for his chances against Sonnan's far more brutal wrestling.
Bisping will most likely win his match, but it could be interesting.
And for the main event I'll go with Rashad, although he really bores me to death.
Maybe Davis can bring some excitement to the table.
Munoz kept getting caught around the neck vs Leban though, which really doesn't say much for his chances against Sonnan's far more brutal wrestling.
Bisping will most likely win his match, but it could be interesting.
And for the main event I'll go with Rashad, although he really bores me to death.
Maybe Davis can bring some excitement to the table.
