The WIP Thread

[Masoo2]

@Warlus_Of_Doom - Those guitars sound really, REALLY nice (Albeit a bit thin) Fairly realistic sound. How exactly did you create the sound, and would you say Revalver is worth it?

@AugmentedFourth Sounds great, but the bass is a bit heavy at some parts. I would bring it down a decibel or two.

@Gashzilla The main guitars sound a little weak and too low in the mix. Are they double tracked?

First up is a quick mix of an Intervals cover by Joseph Lauletta

[SC]https://soundcloud.com/masoo242/joelaul-momento-mix-and-master[/SC]

Next is a mix of Nightfall by Arcadia (You can find the thread with stems somewhere on here)

[SC]https://soundcloud.com/masoo242/arcadia-nightfall-mix-and-master[/SC]

 

[Saieph]

@Masoo2 - Quad tracked. I do need to bring them up...noticed that pretty much off the bat. How do you think everything else is sounding?

 

[Masoo2]

@Gashzilla

The intro sounds nice (Maybe bring up the stereo pad-type thingy, not sure what it exactly is), but the drums need to come up in the main mix.

Maybe a little more highs in the guitars and it should be good to go!

 

[Saieph]

So:
1. More highs on the guitars (what frequency you thinking?)
2. Main guitars bumped up in the mix
3. Drum volume bumped up in the mix
4. Low synth pad volume bumped up

I'll keep an eye on this and make some changes when I track the next sections. Thanks!!!

 

[Masoo2]

The frequency is entirely up to you, but I tend to enjoy bumping up the 4k-6k if the guitars are too dark.

 

[Warlus_Of_Doom]

Thanks Gash and Masoo

@Masoo2 I think Revalver is great, but it takes some fiddling around to get solid tones. I had to clean the sound up with a ton of eq. On the guitar bus i had a dual-mono compressor to keep things more even, some extra saturation and finally some stereo imaging, which I overdid a little, making the top end stick out too much making it sound thin. I'll attach a picture below of my signal chain, but here's a brakedown:

- Pre-HB preamp
- Overdriver with the mix knob at around 75%
- JSX amp with crunch settings
- Cab-sim, I use "MB OS 4x12 V30 57 08" from the Sperimental Pack which you can download for free

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iplrw4h2bwf1gsv/Guitar tonez.png?dl=0

 

[Drezik27]

This is the first song that I have tried to mix that isnt my own, so looking for some pointers here. I was pretty happy with it and thought it sounded alright until I listened to it in the car...a few things immediately jumped out to me:

1. Drums (mainly the kick) sound a little lifeless
2. A lot of mud in what I would call the chorus section of the song

Song is Nightfall by Arcadia, got the stems from another post in this forum.

[sc]https://soundcloud.com/user37027297/arcadia-nightfall-mixed-mastered[/sc]

 

[DamienE7]

This is the first song that I have tried to mix that isnt my own, so looking for some pointers here. I was pretty happy with it and thought it sounded alright until I listened to it in the car...a few things immediately jumped out to me:

1. Drums (mainly the kick) sound a little lifeless
2. A lot of mud in what I would call the chorus section of the song

Song is Nightfall by Arcadia, got the stems from another post in this forum.

[sc]https://soundcloud.com/user37027297/arcadia-nightfall-mixed-mastered[/sc]

I think the kick and snare lacks punch and authority... they both seem very thing... id play around with the eq on both... probably start but putting more bass into the kick and see if you can get that thick thump into it... maybe just try bringing the snare up in the mix a little bit? play with the eq a little bit and see what you come up with... the mud could be too much bass in the guitars or panning? try shifting things around in the mix to give them their own space to breath, the instruments might be fighting each other...

[SC]https://soundcloud.com/shalashaska-4/brevity-4[/SC]

speaking of instruments fighting each other... i grabbed a roland system one on the weekend just gone... put this track together to give it a test run... give it a listen and any tips or tricks to getting keys and synths to sit well in a mix a greatly appreciated!!

 

[Saieph]

Still working on it, but took some suggestions to heart...let me know if you think it's getting any better:

[SC]https://soundcloud.com/saieph/0006-saieph[/SC]

 

[DamienE7]

Still working on it, but took some suggestions to heart...let me know if you think it's getting any better:

[SC]https://soundcloud.com/saieph/0006-saieph[/SC]

Man I am Loving this track! Looking forward to Hearing your EP's! I like the way it sounds... its different, dig it heaps!

Now... as i continue to delve into the world of vocals and keyboards in my music this is my newest adventure! Got a heap of content Ideas during the mix on this but i will save that for when I have demoed all the songs and lay down the final recordings for my album!

[SC]https://soundcloud.com/shalashaska-4/ancient-seas-demo[/SC]

 

[JEngelking]

Now... as i continue to delve into the world of vocals and keyboards in my music this is my newest adventure! Got a heap of content Ideas during the mix on this but i will save that for when I have demoed all the songs and lay down the final recordings for my album!

[SC]https://soundcloud.com/shalashaska-4/ancient-seas-demo[/SC]

Sounds really good for a demo I'd say, nice bass and guitar tones and meshing! My main critique would be the vocals are a bit "on top", and that the snare could be less dry, I think some reverb on both may do the trick?

Also, if I may ask, what are you using for those samples at the beginning?

This is the first song that I have tried to mix that isnt my own, so looking for some pointers here. I was pretty happy with it and thought it sounded alright until I listened to it in the car...a few things immediately jumped out to me:

1. Drums (mainly the kick) sound a little lifeless
2. A lot of mud in what I would call the chorus section of the song

Song is Nightfall by Arcadia, got the stems from another post in this forum.

[sc]https://soundcloud.com/user37027297/arcadia-nightfall-mixed-mastered[/sc]

Guitars could be punchier IMO, but overall this is a good start I'd say! I'd also agree with what would you said you noticed, but I think all of those things are pretty easily solved.

Here's my latest effort. Now that I finally have a bass I can start recording bass for songs and finish the album I wanna do, there's just the outro to the last song that I have to write before that's done.

In the meantime, I'll be using this song to use as a basis for the rest of the songs, so I wanna get this sounding as good as possible, let me know what you think needs improvement!

Main influences here are Red Fang, Mastodon, and Baroness.

[SC]https://soundcloud.com/oceansbuiltonsinkingships/rotting-frame-now-with-bass[/SC]

 

[DamienE7]

Sounds really good for a demo I'd say, nice bass and guitar tones and meshing! My main critique would be the vocals are a bit "on top", and that the snare could be less dry, I think some reverb on both may do the trick?

Also, if I may ask, what are you using for those samples at the beginning?



Guitars could be punchier IMO, but overall this is a good start I'd say! I'd also agree with what would you said you noticed, but I think all of those things are pretty easily solved.

Here's my latest effort. Now that I finally have a bass I can start recording bass for songs and finish the album I wanna do, there's just the outro to the last song that I have to write before that's done.

In the meantime, I'll be using this song to use as a basis for the rest of the songs, so I wanna get this sounding as good as possible, let me know what you think needs improvement!

Main influences here are Red Fang, Mastodon, and Baroness.

[SC]https://soundcloud.com/oceansbuiltonsinkingships/rotting-frame-now-with-bass[/SC]

Man, that is sounding really good!i listened through a couple times with the intent of finding something to pick on you for but the only thing i got was "the vocals are a bit low in the mix" with a stupid grin! as for where i got my intro sounds! I picked up a roland system 1 about a month ago... been playing with it a heap... it just a mix of a few sounds i concocted with that and i used the "haunted toys" patch on my HD500x then reversed the track in my DAW.

 

[JEngelking]

Man, that is sounding really good!i listened through a couple times with the intent of finding something to pick on you for but the only thing i got was "the vocals are a bit low in the mix" with a stupid grin! as for where i got my intro sounds! I picked up a roland system 1 about a month ago... been playing with it a heap... it just a mix of a few sounds i concocted with that and i used the "haunted toys" patch on my HD500x then reversed the track in my DAW.

Sounds very cool! And thank you! That's really good to hear, because I I've barely even touched on EQ'ing the tracks and I've just mainly done level adjustment. I think my main qualm right now would be that something doesn't sit quite right with the drums, maybe they're just a little too forward in the mix?

I'll actually be adding vocals to this song, and most likely also on the other songs that it'll be matched with on the album.

 

[JEngelking]

Here's another, pretty Opeth-y song. This is the opener to the album.

[SC]https://soundcloud.com/oceansbuiltonsinkingships/zwodder-wip-1[/SC]

 

[Saieph]

@JEngelking - I am very impressed with your posts as of late...stuff is great, and I can't wait to listen to the whole piece as one!!!

Here is the beginning of a new one I'm working on. I want to change the solo tone in section 1, bring the rhythms up a bit in the 3-4k range, bring up the volume on those, and take out the tom rolls at the end of section 1 as well...
[SC]https://soundcloud.com/saieph/0007-saieph[/SC]

 

[JEngelking]

@JEngelking - I am very impressed with your posts as of late...stuff is great, and I can't wait to listen to the whole piece as one!!!

Here is the beginning of a new one I'm working on. I want to change the solo tone in section 1, bring the rhythms up a bit in the 3-4k range, bring up the volume on those, and take out the tom rolls at the end of section 1 as well...
[SC]https://soundcloud.com/saieph/0007-saieph[/SC]

Thanks so much! That is seriously so encouraging to hear, I really appreciate it.

I like the way the guitars and the bass work together there! I also really like the groove of the whole piece. Personally, I think the drums need to punch through the mix more, and be a little more "in your face". Digging it so far though!

 

[Saieph]

Yes, I'm going to revamp the overall dynamic, especially where the drums and guitar are concerned. I guess I'm just not entirely sure how to get the drums more in your face...*shrug*

 

[JEngelking]

Yes, I'm going to revamp the overall dynamic, especially where the drums and guitar are concerned. I guess I'm just not entirely sure how to get the drums more in your face...*shrug*

Hm, what are you currently using for drums? I think some compression and EQ'ing in select spots can go a long way in that area, that's a tactic I've used for both mixing programmed drums and live recorded drums.

 

[Saieph]

I'm using Groove Agent in Cubase. Everything is in Cubase. Amp Rack, Groove Agent, all the synths...

 

[Saieph]

Been working on the overall mix and dynamics. I think it's a big improvement.
[SC]https://soundcloud.com/saieph/0007-saieph[/SC]