US Political Discussion: Biden/Harris Edition (Rules in OP)

[Ralyks]

If we're going to arrest people in Washington DC for every little lie told, the entire city is going to be in a super max prison due to limited size in jails.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[MetalHex]

^ "The iron hand crushed the tyrants head, and became a tyrant in his stead".

 

[ExileMetal]

If we're going to arrest people in Washington DC for every little lie told, the entire city is going to be in a super max prison due to limited size in jails. Then again, I'm sure pest control in the area will be seeing quite a boom in business.

Logged in to see if the right wing goal posts had shifted and was not disappointed.

 

[Ordacleaphobia]

1. I want to know what he said "Im fucked." I mean, I know why, but if everything was copasetic, why would he said that?

Bad optics. The inevitable inquisition from the press. Knowledge that nobody is going to shut up about it for the next few years. Knowledge that the legacy of his presidency will always be stained by this controversy now. Increased pushback from his constituents. Even if he was totally innocent (which I don't think he is), it's not an entirely unreasonable reaction.

I thought ignorance of the law was no defense?

Drew, did you even read your law textbook?
Clear as day there's a big fat asterisk next to that statement leading to a footnote that reads "Unless you're rich, famous, or a politician."

 

[Randy]

Worst two days in Trump admin so far but CNN gonna CNN.

Keep that money train rolling.

 

[Slippery_Pete]

Looks to me like CNN is finally reporting the truth.

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

CNN reporting the truth? Haha. That'll be the day.

 

[MetalHex]

There was a time when the news didn't just project their biased opinion 24/7 and actually reported...............news.

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

There was a time when the news didn't just project their biased opinion 24/7 and actually reported...............news.

When was this? In the 40s before Operation Mockingbird took affect?

 

[MetalHex]

When was this? In the 40s before Operation Mockingbird took affect?

Apparently before I was born, so my parents have told me

 

[MetalHex]

You know I have to post this here as super creepy uncle Joe plans on announcing his hopefully campaign next week. I meam, he's just a touchy feely kinda guy right? He sure is!



I'm still trying to figure out why democrats and especially democratic women, are not up in arms about this?

Whataboutism response in 3....2....1....

 

[Ralyks]

They're just upset he didn't grab them by etc etc.

And yeah, I think Trumps in some shit, but impeaching him really doesn't seem worth it. Plus he's fucked as it is by SDNY the moment he leaves office.

 

[MetalHex]

They're just upset he didn't grab them by etc etc.

And yeah, I think Trumps in some shit, but impeaching him really doesn't seem worth it. Plus he's fucked as it is by SDNY the moment he leaves office.

You couldnt resist.

Shit, if those women allowed you to, you would too.

The funny thing is that everyone conveniently forgets the part where he said "THEY LET you do anything.......grab them by the pussy". Emphasis on "they let".

I could understand if he said "yeah i walked up and grabbed her by the pussy". But he didn't say that.

 

[Ralyks]

Serious question. Do you actually like Trump, or is it the fact that he's the Republican President? Because I lean left, and I didn't hate W Bush as much as a lot of people did. I despised Trump long before he actually put a bid in for office. I don't care that a Republican is in office. It's just, THIS Guy was the best you could come up with? THIS is the guy the right choose for their hill to die on? Seriously, NO ONE better?

Also, I didn't like Hilary either, so the last election was a lost cause for me either way. I make no delusions that there's serious problems on the left too.

 

[MetalHex]

Serious question. Do you actually like Trump, or is it the fact that he's the Republican President? Because I lean left, and I didn't hate W Bush as much as a lot of people did. I despised Trump long before he actually put a bid in for office. I don't care that a Republican is in office. It's just, THIS Guy was the best you could come up with? THIS is the guy the right choose for their hill to die on? Seriously, NO ONE better?

Also, I didn't like Hilary either, so the last election was a lost cause for me either way. I make no delusions that there's serious problems on the left too.

But that's besides the point. If you can take just that one quote there out of context, and see it how you want to see it (actually how the media wants you to see it), instead of how it actually is, then how many other things can you take out of context?......and ......as each one is taken out of context, or flipped a certain way, when piled on top of each other, it culmulates into a giant pool of fuel for bias.

Do I like Trump? I like some things. I like how he triggered the fuck out of the left by threatening to make them put their money where their mouth is, and take in these illegal invaders into their city, since they are so tolerant and loving and have a "we should take care of everyone" attitude. (Naturally, they seem to have their tail between their legs now)

In reality, I hope he doesn't do that because, they shouldn't be here in the first place. So that would be the downside of him being too bold.

 

[Ralyks]

Besides the point? I said my piece, you did you're who "You had to go there" retort, and now I moved on to a serious question. That said, the fact you enjoy seeing people triggered says enough.

 

[narad]

Do I like Trump? I like some things. I like how he triggered the fuck out of the left by threatening to make them put their money where their mouth is, and take in these illegal invaders into their city, since they are so tolerant and loving and have a "we should take care of everyone" attitude. (Naturally, they seem to have their tail between their legs now)

Naturally. He really called our bluff on wanting to help immigrants.

 

[Randy]

NYS hemorraging people by the day, we'll take all the immigrants we can.

 

[Xaios]

and take in these illegal invaders into their city, since they are so tolerant and loving and have a "we should take care of everyone" attitude.

It amazes me that you think people deserve to be punished for trying to help other people just because they crossed an arbitrary line in the sand. What a sad outlook that is. I couldn't imagine being so spiteful that I would find charity towards people who came to my country, even illegally, to escape a desperate situation where they're from as something to be abhorred, and those who practice it to be deserving of punishment. Why don't you tell us how you really feel and just call them virtue-signalling cucks while you're at it?

Also, if I say "we, as a country, have a duty to take care of immigrants," the clear and obvious connotation is that the burden of taking care of said immigrants will be shared among all people of said country. Under such a paradigm, it's a burden that is entirely possible to shoulder, as evidenced by the fact that Canada takes in more than double the immigrants per capita as the US, and whatever negative effects have resulted have been utterly negligible. However, if the entirety of the immigrant population was dumped on, say, Calgary, they would obviously not have the resources to deal with it. Forcing a small portion of the population to shoulder such a load is clearly nothing more than a punishment to hurt those who deign to advocate for helping those people! It would be like telling an advocate for clean water in Flint, Michigan, "You want clean water? Fine! We're going to force feed you Britta filters and run the entire city's supply through your intestines. After all, this is what you wanted, right? That's what you get for trying to help others!" It's petty, vindictive, and incredibly childish. Of course, Trump is all of those things, so naturally it makes perfect sense that he and all those who follow him would be fans of such an approach.

 

[MetalHex]

It amazes me that you think people deserve to be punished for trying to help other people just because they crossed an arbitrary line in the sand. What a sad outlook that is. I couldn't imagine being so spiteful that I would find charity towards people who came to my country, even illegally, to escape a desperate situation where they're from as something to be abhorred, and those who practice it to be deserving of punishment. Why don't you tell us how you really feel and just call them virtue-signalling cucks while you're at it?

Also, if I say "we, as a country, have a duty to take care of immigrants," the clear and obvious connotation is that the burden of taking care of said immigrants will be shared among all people of said country. Under such a paradigm, it's a burden that is entirely possible to shoulder, as evidenced by the fact that Canada takes in more than double the immigrants per capita as the US, and whatever negative effects have resulted have been utterly negligible. However, if the entirety of the immigrant population was dumped on, say, Calgary, they would obviously not have the resources to deal with it. Forcing a small portion of the population to shoulder such a load is clearly nothing more than a punishment to hurt those who deign to advocate for helping those people! It would be like telling an advocate for clean water in Flint, Michigan, "You want clean water? Fine! We're going to force feed you Britta filters and run the entire city's supply through your intestines. After all, this is what you wanted, right? That's what you get for trying to help others!" It's petty, vindictive, and incredibly childish. Of course, Trump is all of those things, so naturally it makes perfect sense that he and all those who follow him would be fans of such an approach.

The thing is is your saying this from your arm-chair. I would never tell you what to do, but maybe you need to go to your local home-depot, or go to the southern border, or wherever and smuggle some of these people into your car, take them to your home, and set up a few sleeping bags and maybe setup a little tv stand and xbox while your at it.....o holy one.

Trump wasnt going to dump all of the illegals into one small area btw, it was 3 large cities. So putting illegal invaders in sanctuary cities, precisely where the only people that want them, would want them to be, would be punishing the people that want them there?

Why do leftists think that just because people are against illegal immigration that they dont want immigrants there at all? It's wrong to think that way and also, that's not very fair to the people south of the border, including mexicans, and inlcuding all other immigrant-hopefuls around the world, who are patiently waiting their turn in line, and going about it through the legal process, who are being cut off and undermined by people entering illegally. It's not fair to those people. (you could argue that the process is not efficient enough, it takes forever, etc. thats a different story)

What I am against is my tax dollars helping illegal immigrants who shouldn't be here. (go ahead and argue what other million things my tax dollars are going to, and how I have no say in that, or how i'm not complaing, blah blah etc....thats besides the point)

"Also, if I say "we, as a country, have a duty to take care of immigrants," the clear and obvious connotation is that the burden of taking care of said immigrants will be shared among all people of said country." Ah, so you think it's moral to force everyone collectively to take care of people whom we have no responsibility for. I am all for independence, and personal responsibility. How dare you say what "we all should do". Dont force me into your hive-mind collective politics. You shouldn't want or wish the burden to be on other people other than yourself. Take some responsibility for yourself, and if you want to help others thats fine with me, but leave everyone else out of it. I like to help people to, but only because I want to, not because I think its for the "greater good".....because the most helpful thing you can do for other people, is to stay out of their way, let them make their own choices in life, and give them independence. (obviously everything short of harming other people, and within the confines and legality and lawfullness of course). So you can go ahead and shoulder that burden yourself. Helping by force is not help out of gratitude its out of force and to me that kind of help is immoral IMO. (thats like eating at a restuarant with a group of 5 and the gratuity tip is already including in your final price. Taking tip money for yourself without my say is not me showing gratitude; its you stealing! I gladly tip well when the service is good, but its not out of gratitude if its by force.)

"Forcing a small portion of the population to shoulder such a load is clearly nothing more than a punishment to hurt those who deign to advocate for helping those people!"
Oh, but forcing a large percentage of population to do the same would be ok? The people who are advocating for helping other people, should just keep quiet, and kindly help other people on their own term and will. Shouting and screaming and trying to change legislation so that everyone has to help (by force), is fucking wrong and absolutely immoral. Leave me out of your collectivist mindset and mind your own business.

I bet you drive by homesless and hungry people on the streets from time to time; how much do you help them? do you empty yourpockets right there on the street and say take everything? Do you bring them to get food? Or do you just roll your window up and act like they aren't there? Whatever your answer is....good for you. Leave me out of it.

You NEVER hear anyone from the left use these words......independence, freedom, liberty. And that is what this country needs more of. Not this facade of collective socialism/crowd consensus/everyone patting each other on the back. Do you think you are the fixer of society? Once you start thinking that you are the fixer of society, you are suffering from a psychological inflation complex