Nollys had a signature guitar for quite a while with Vik, this is just a 6 string version of it iirc.
but yes he does have a signature bass and guitar.
Vik Guitars Discussion
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Nollys had a signature guitar for quite a while with Vik, this is just a 6 string version of it iirc.
but yes he does have a signature bass and guitar.
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tmfrank
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Nolly is a jack of all trades
I can't tell which he enjoys more...now that he plays bass for a living, I wonder if he misses guitar at all 
Lol fair enough, I guess if I checked vik's website ever I would have been privy to that information, nonetheless ; thats ....ed.
From years of experience, shopping around various local distributors, dealing with Hearne Hardwoods, Gilmer Woods, Fraser Valley and a host of other amazing places to purchase wood from, this is complete nonsense.
I can't wait to read about "hand picked seasoned timbres" and various other asinine buzz-phrases that people who have zero clue what they're talking about spout on a regular basis. Unless you're blindly ordering wood (which if you're doing that, you're stupid), it's hand picked.
All that being said - i'm really excited for Vik here. If he can clear out the backlog and get awesome guitars into people's hands and follow it up with a great US release of production guitars, he'll be laughin.
MF_Kitten
Set up us the bomb
Nothing but the best peppered oaks and oregano maples!
ormsby guitars
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You forgot some buzzwords:
Old Growth
Reclaimed
Roasted
Aged ten years
Air dried
Sinker
Recycled
Tonewood
Watty
Naturally Cynical
But.....but, mine has ALL of those things....well, except roasted.
That aside, and while I don't care for Vik on a personal level, the 6'er is tempting, especially if it comes in around what a Strandberg Boden goes for....obviously stripped specs and wood figure, but still.
That aside, and while I don't care for Vik on a personal level, the 6'er is tempting, especially if it comes in around what a Strandberg Boden goes for....obviously stripped specs and wood figure, but still.
Nolly has got a signature guitar yes but has Vik actually even finished one for anyone else that ordered one? I don't recall ever seeing another one in the wild; may have missed them though.
theoctopus
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Not to my knowledge. Those of us in the original sig run are still waiting.
Has that build even started? I almost got in on that run and was told it would be done in 9 months.
Workhorse
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Getting a signature guitar with Vik 2 years ago is a lot easier than getting it wit ibanez/jackson/prs
theoctopus
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I don't know the answer to that question, unfortunately. Wish I did. I was initially told they would be completed in April/May of 2012. Then August of 2012. Then November of 2012. And now Vik will respond to any question except where the guitars are in the build process and when they will be completed. Last I spoke with him he was fairly adamant that he will be getting back to business on the builds after NAMM. I'm not sure how much that can be trusted, since Messe is right around the corner after NAMM.
If I had any indication that they have even been started, I might feel more excited about the ViK USA endeavor. It is a really big step for him, and a significant divergence from his recent Blackmachine sales style. It has the capacity to make his product available to people who don't have $10k to spend on a guitar, which is always nice. In truth, though, it just has me wanting to sell my spot more than ever before, even if the guitar will really be finished within a matter of months. It's just one more thing that Vik has to manage that will keep him away from fulfilling his contractual obligations to clients that have already invested large sums of their personal funds.
That's cool. I am sure he will get back on track after NAMM. I jus† find it kind of odd he's announcing that Nolly is getting a 6 string signature and yet he hasn't even finished any Nolly 7 string sigs in the 2 years since. Would make sense that the 6 string sig will be one of the VIK USA models.
JayT
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That's easy for you to say, you don't have your guitar paid for a very long time, you don't have promises being broken 30 times. You don't have your communication being ignored.
When I heard about this Vik USA business, my first thought was "Does this give me any possibility of legal protection, since it's the same owner?" I am guessing it doesn't but it does give you a good idea what my opinion of Vik's business practices is.
Basically Vik.... he is a nice guy. He really is. He believes he is honest and doesn't see any problem with the way he has been handling his customer service. He believes he is entitled to all this... He thinks he has all the right to break the business deal, if it suits him. He doesn't think he is doing anything wrong, so he doesn't feel bad about it. To be honest I am more worried about people doing bad things who are able to justify them in their own mind, than people who fully realize they are cheating their customers. With the first type there is practically no way to achieve anything. I know couple of Russians occasionally travelling to and doing business in Minsk and I asked them to find out what they can about my options - no matter what the cost would be. I am THAT frustrated.
This VIK USA has been launched with our money. We gave Vik long-term loan with zero interest rate and indefinite loan period. Without all of us ordering custom builds and runs, there would have been no Vik USA. There would have probably been no Vik Guitars either. Think about it... Many years ago people from all over the world were sending money to Belarus, trusting this guy that he would honor the agreement. While he was not that well known, he was honoring the agreements and his family was taken care of. But once he became well known he followed the steps of many other custom shop luthiers and made the biggest mistake a businessman can make: start thinking that he is more important than his customers. Customers got him all the praise and fame, but he forgot about them and instead started doing guitars for "friends", the friends that wouldn't have even touched any of his guitars five years ago, let alone pay for it or wait in line. Then runs. Then in-stock auctions... The level of disrespect towards the customers in this case is hard to describe in words - you would have to experience it.
I agree with the rest of your post but I gotta say that Eclipse II is something that doesn't look too good to me and Eclipse I (European) is a nice looking guitar. So in this case I think Gibson successfully protected their "property" in USA.
I don't know much about intellectual property but in case of your design being stolen I can actually understand Vik's frustration. However his response was not appropriate and if anything, it undermined his position as a serious businessman. He desperately needs customer service representative or somebody that would give him good advice on how to conduct business. Just because you are a great luthier does not mean that you are also a great businessman and in Vik's case that's been too obvious. He will destroy his own business. He reminds me of a drug addict who thinks he has no problem quitting. Just one more time, this is the last time, then it's all back to normal. Oh and this time I am justified to do it, but not afterwards... Oh and then there is Messe, I can take a shot before Messe, everyone would understand that...
The one thing that bothered me most in this Vik copy drama was, that Vik is not able to produce his guitars and customers have been cheated for a long time. Since he doesn't have any of his designs protected, he doesn't have any legal ground for acting against anyone. But the whole situation with waiting list and broken contracts situation in my opinion undermines the moral justification as well.
I'll believe when I see it... and I know your opinion is not different than mine in this case. From our experience "next weekend" means he could either finish it next weekend or in November 2015. Yes, it's been THAT bad and that's the level of confidence customers have in his deadlines. It's sad. I would be ashamed if my customers trusted me only this much.
I don't buy into all this "will get things done after NAMM" argument. I want visual evidence. As someone mentioned, there is Messe after NAMM and we all know that any such event has priority over paid or partially paid guitars you are (not) making. Or maybe bulb decides he wants 15 new guitars to "test", which would also mean that every paid order gets an extra year of delay. Or maybe Guitarporn wants to make a bit more money by hyping Vik's guitars to get in front of the line, only to sell it for a profit next week. The only thing I don't know for certain in guitarporn case is whether they share the profit with Vik or not. Oh... and that brings me to blind auctions. Wow. Just wow. I didn't know blind auction was even an option. To me it breaks basic law of conducting trade. But that's just me.
Vik case is not an easy one. Because he is not mean, evil, he doesn't have bad intentions. And as said, he doesn't think he is doing anything wrong, he feels fully justified when he is screwing the customers. If he doesn't separate business/customer relation and his guitar building skills, he will fail in the end.
Winspear
Winspear/Noisemother
Mehtab was part of the Saviour run which as far as I'm aware are all finished and received. No line jumping. He did not plan to sell it at all - however he just couldn't bond with the guitar given the frustration he had experienced from the delays. Sad, and understandable. Yes it was sold for a profit but only a reasonable price that people were clearly willing to pay. I see nothing wrong here
thrsher
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Mehtab was part of the Saviour run which as far as I'm aware are all finished and received. No line jumping. He did not plan to sell it at all - however he just couldn't bond with the guitar given the frustration he had experienced from the delays. Sad, and understandable. Yes it was sold for a profit but only a reasonable price that people were clearly willing to pay. I see nothing wrong here
this run came in after my order and jonnybravo has had his saviour for at least 6 months now and a few others have shipped as well...that does not sit well with me.
and for that matter, i orderd my build 2 weeks after yours!! how long have you had your domineer?? im pushing 30 months now on the order
JayT
Active Member
Unfortunately every single guitar (perhaps with an exception of one custom build order finished by mistake) he completed in last 12 months is jumping the line.Mehtab was part of the Saviour run which as far as I'm aware are all finished and received. No line jumping. He did not plan to sell it at all - however he just couldn't bond with the guitar given the frustration he had experienced from the delays. Sad, and understandable. Yes it was sold for a profit but only a reasonable price that people were clearly willing to pay. I see nothing wrong here
I am not convinced that everything is ok with guitarporn, although I do understand that somebody can be turned off by all the problems described in my post and I don't claim to be 100% correct. My scepticism comes from all that praising and daily posts how he got the best guitar in his life... only to sell it a week later. Come on... we are not that naive are we? You don't say how you have just received best guitar you ever had just to sell it next day. At some point he must have thought "I will probably sell this guitar" and yet he kept going on with the praise.
There is a lot of... dark stuff going on in custom guitar world. I think Vik had been exploited by one or two people in the past and he will probably be used by more people in the future for their own personal gain. It seems to me to be very easy these days to hype a product or a luthier and deep inside Vik is a nice guy that can easily be influenced by such people.
I will say that I have no intention of selling Vik guitar, unless I find an instrument that I think is better, or if I would run into significant financial difficulties. I would however sell other guitars before my favorite guitar. That guitar will have to be VERY good, though, to become my favorite guitar, because of all the problems I have been experiencing...
Oh, and I intend to place an order for another custom guitar during next week and their waiting list is not very short either. Still I have a feeling it will be completed before Vik. Definitely interesting bet, one way or another.
Winspear
Winspear/Noisemother
Sorry - I thought you meant Mehtab specifically jumped the line through the Guitar Porn promo etc. He did nothing wrong and received his Saviour just like anyone else on that run.
But yes, indeed - the run itself jumped the line, so to speak.
He really was very happy with the guitar, physically - he just wasn't happy mentally. He may not want one now but still claims they are some of the best.
I'm never selling mine - that much is for sure! This guitar has changed my life.
Thrasher - yeah, mine seemed to be pretty much the last guitar in the standard queue to go to plan? I've had it for 14 months now.
I placed another order a few months before it was received, too. So ~18 months and counting for #2.
I am very keen to see things back on track.
But yes, indeed - the run itself jumped the line, so to speak.
He really was very happy with the guitar, physically - he just wasn't happy mentally. He may not want one now but still claims they are some of the best.
I'm never selling mine - that much is for sure! This guitar has changed my life.
Thrasher - yeah, mine seemed to be pretty much the last guitar in the standard queue to go to plan? I've had it for 14 months now.
I placed another order a few months before it was received, too. So ~18 months and counting for #2.
I am very keen to see things back on track.
Lorcan Ward
7slinger
^I thought Paul's insane redwood Burl Duality 7 and Kruneh's Flamed Redwood Duality 6 were finished after yours?
Just to clear this up for anyone reading it. Some people get a huge kick out of buying and selling really hi-end guitars. They just have to try every guitar out there so they end up going through a guitar a week/month. Not everyone is a dedicated player in the guitar world who holds on to all their guitars. Some guys just like trying, flipping and buying something else in a futile attempt to cure their GAS.
Also if your trying to sell something you own of course your going to praise it. Basic rule of being a salesman. Simple as that. Your just looking to hard into it or not looking at it from the right perspective.
So who here is going to NAMM?
Just to clear this up for anyone reading it. Some people get a huge kick out of buying and selling really hi-end guitars. They just have to try every guitar out there so they end up going through a guitar a week/month. Not everyone is a dedicated player in the guitar world who holds on to all their guitars. Some guys just like trying, flipping and buying something else in a futile attempt to cure their GAS.
Also if your trying to sell something you own of course your going to praise it. Basic rule of being a salesman. Simple as that. Your just looking to hard into it or not looking at it from the right perspective.
So who here is going to NAMM?
