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Toshiro said:See, we don't agree on metal either.
P.S. I hate male vocal j-pop/j-rock.![]()
Naren said:Well, yes, 'tis true. I hate most female vocal j-pop/j-rock. I do like Utada Hikaru, Ua, and Love Psychedelico, but other than that... whereas I do have quite a few Japanese rock bands I like (most of them aren't that popular, though): Kemuri, Yamaarashi, Husking Bee, X Japan, Hi Standard, Blue Hearts, Mr. Children, Hide (Spread Beaver and solo work), and a few others.
But, it's okay to disagree. Not everyone is going to have the same opinions. I have like 2-3 songs by Ayumi Hamasaki that I like, but even then, I don't like the way her voice sounds in those songs.![]()
Toshiro said:I can't stand Hikaru Utada, especially now that she's tried to pander to the US music scene.![]()
Naren said:What's wrong with Hikaru Utada trying to pander to the US music scene? She is an American after all (born and raised in NYC). She's got a good voice and nice music.
I find it funny that you say that as a Hamasaki Ayumi fan. She started out as a model and didn't even want to become a pop singer, but was pressured into it and now makes the cheeziest poppiest drivel I've ever heard as one of the most popular singers in Japan (yet I think she has zero talent). I think many of her songs are worse than Britney Spears' (she is kind of like a Japanese Britney Spears, in a way. Or more like a Japanese version of Mariah Carey, Britney Spears, Madonna, and several Japanese idols all mixed together).
Yes, I don't like Ayumi at all... But it's all in the ear of the beholder, I guess.
Toshiro said:Yet you stick up for Hikaru who sings about japanese girls being easy? YOU wanna talk about dumb lyrics? And yes I think it's stupid that Utada tried to make it over here, doesn't matter where she was born. Hikaru Utada, dropping her given name, is going to immediately make it big when most of her US fan-base were hardcore anime fans? Most of her old fans I know won't touch that english record with a ten foot pole, the music on it, from what I've heard of it, doesn't even sound like her at all.
Naren said:I have no idea why she had/has so many hardcore anime fans, anyway. Her music has no relation to animation, whatsover. I could care less what "hardcore anime fans" think since at least half of the American ones are extremely illogical (I used to have an anti-"otaku" website which got quite a bit of hate mail). And, I'm not anti-animation or regular japanimation fans (I have seen at least 1000 Japanese animations by now, have read at least 100 "manga" series, and even tonight am planning on watching 2 animation movies). My main problem is with the "Fanboys" and "fangirls" (don't want to go into detail, but I think you'd agree with me on many points). So to me "hardcore anime fan" is not necessarily a compliment, even though I've known a lot of really nice "hardcore anime fans" and I also will most likely be starting a Japanese comic translation/publishing company in 2006 or 2007 with a good Japanese friend of mine with me as head translator.
Mm... yeah, well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about the Utada/Hamasaki thing.
Toshiro said:Heh, I'm just going by what I've seen over here at cons. Things get hyped, and they sell like hot-cakes (like Final Fantasy music), everyone I know into J-pop got there through anime or gaming(first exposure to Ayumi for me was a game intro, think it was Thousand Arms?). And yes the fan-boy/fan-girl thing is way out of hand, but it pretty much makes or breaks stuff over here. If your show isn't on the 'hot list' the release dates get pushed back, or it disappears altogether. The flavor of the month on Cartoon Network drives the kiddie market, but there's still a mass of 'otaku' who jump on what they feel is the big thing in Japan, and run it into the ground.
Well, I WAS listening to Flotsam and Jetsam's "No Place for Disgrace", but then I saw this post and remembered the gorgeous piece of metal that is "The Lethargic Age". Oh hells yeah... (pulling up Winamp... opening Coroner's "Grin"...)Doctor J said:Coroner - The Lethargic Age![]()
Doctor J said:Looks like I'm gonna have to put on Mental Vortex next![]()
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Karl Hungus said:Joe Satriani - Love Thing
Felt in a real Satch mood today, so I whipped out Crystal Planet.