Why Do You Hate Deathcore?

[ShadyDavey]

I really, honestly don't think I've ever listened to Deathcore. Well, maybe I have but if so its inadvertantly and I'd judge the band on its merits rather than trying to neatly categorise them....so I can't say I don't enjoy Deathcore because firstly, I refuse to label music and secondly I really don't go out of my way to experience as many bands as I could.

Point me at a couple of good examples and I'll give you an honest opinion but it won't include the use of the word hate. Disliking something musical is a matter of opinion and personal taste.....hating something musical is utterly pointless. While it touches one person then it has value even if its part of a sub-culture that as with so many other is proliferated with medicore talent, or bands simply on the bandwagon.

That reminds me of a thread I started...

 

[xshreditupx]

I really, honestly don't think I've ever listened to Deathcore. Well, maybe I have but if so its inadvertantly and I'd judge the band on its merits rather than trying to neatly categorise them....so I can't say I don't enjoy Deathcore because firstly, I refuse to label music and secondly I really don't go out of my way to experience as many bands as I could.

Point me at a couple of good examples and I'll give you an honest opinion but it won't include the use of the word hate. Disliking something musical is a matter of opinion and personal taste.....hating something musical is utterly pointless. While it touches one person then it has value even if its part of a sub-culture that as with so many other is proliferated with medicore talent, or bands simply on the bandwagon.

That reminds me of a thread I started...

if you go to my bands myspace page (shameless self promotion) there are a ton of "core" style metal bands in our top friends. check it out. FIT FOR AN AUTOPSY... 2 NEW SONGS POSTED!! on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Downloads

I like your stuff, Patrick.

To me, I'm getting a death metal vibe.

THANK YOU SIR.....

 

[Koshchei]

All Brokencyde references should carry a NSFA (not safe for anywhere) tag.

"Let's get freaky now, let's get fuckin' freaky now""BLAHGEWH!"

I want to kneecap that motherfucker.

This. With a dull hatchet.

And what the fuck is deathcore? In my world, there are two genres or categories for music: I either like it or I don't.

 

[ballr4lyf]

there are two genres or categories for music: I either like it or I don't.

+1

 

[Metal Ken]

thats The Faceless and Born of Orisis



Yeah if it Was like Cannibal/Fetus/Suffo with an occasional well played breakdown it would be epic

Suffocations breakdowns beat the hell out of 90% of metalcore breakdowns, easy.

 

[Metal Ken]

In my world, there are two genres or categories for music: I either like it or I don't.

Yeah, but your world doesn't translate to my world, so your two genres are inherently different than mine, and un-useful in classifying music to anyone else but yourself ;p

 

[DrakkarTyrannis]

Lawl..I love you Ken...no not like that..don't touch me..

 

[Drow Swordsman]

To be honest, I get really tired of people harping on deathcore.

I almost feel at this point its the hate of an ideology rather than a genre itself.

It goes like this


"man, FUCK deathcore bands. They have NO talent. The vocals are annoying, the drums are repetitive, they dress like scene faggots, and they make pig noises. Except I like Whitechapel. And Oceano are brutal. And Despised Icon. And Ion Dissonance. And All Shall Perish. And maybe Winds of Plague. And Through The Eyes of The Dead. Oh yeah, and Animosity. Born of Osiris, too. The Faceless is pretty fucking sweet, too. And the new Acacia Strain KILLS. Beneath the Massacre is kickass! But, FUCK deathcore. Yeah. Deathcore sucks."

In reality, its just like any genre. People hate the shitty deathcore bands, and like most of the good ones, and then start shitting on the entire genre because they dislike Bring Me The Horizon and old Job For A Cowboy. And then people will make excuses for the GOOD deathcore bands and say "dude they aren't deathcore, they are this and that or this and that". Not all bands in ONE genre HAVE to sound the same, people don't need to make a billion new genres for bands that just sound good in a particular genre, or do their own thing. XD.

So, if you wanna hate "scene faggots", hate them. If you wanna hate annoying breakdowns, hate them. But blaming this on an entire genre with a WIDE spectrum of bands and musicians, many of them who put their heart into the music they make, is just downright "silly". Not stupid, not retarded, just silly.

 

[InCasinoOut]

Don't forget deathcore songs are always in diminished or harmonic minor, in the same key as their lowest open string.

I still do enjoy some deathcore though, and I'm glad I'm among the few people my age who actually used it to open myself up to the death metal bands that ended up influencing the genre as a whole.

 

[Metal Ken]

"man, FUCK deathcore bands. They have NO talent. The vocals are annoying, the drums are repetitive, they dress like scene faggots, and they make pig noises. Except I like Whitechapel. And Oceano are brutal. And Despised Icon. And Ion Dissonance. And All Shall Perish. And maybe Winds of Plague. And Through The Eyes of The Dead. Oh yeah, and Animosity. Born of Osiris, too. The Faceless is pretty fucking sweet, too. And the new Acacia Strain KILLS. Beneath the Massacre is kickass! But, FUCK deathcore. Yeah. Deathcore sucks."

I actually really cant get into deathcore. But you know what? a lot of them are talented players, good drummers, et al. Vocals still ruin it for me, as do obligatory breakdowns. And i cant think honestly of any deathcore bands i like

 

[S-O]

Meh, I dig some deathcore, but not because they are deathcore. I dig them because they sound good, some I think are terrible because they sound liek shit, not because they are deathcore. Hating a genre is rather dumb. Though some genres sound inherently dumb.

 

[skinhead]

"man, FUCK deathcore bands. They have NO talent. The vocals are annoying, the drums are repetitive, they dress like scene faggots, and they make pig noises. Except I like Whitechapel. And Oceano are brutal. And Despised Icon. And Ion Dissonance. And All Shall Perish. And maybe Winds of Plague. And Through The Eyes of The Dead. Oh yeah, and Animosity. Born of Osiris, too. The Faceless is pretty fucking sweet, too. And the new Acacia Strain KILLS. Beneath the Massacre is kickass! But, FUCK deathcore. Yeah. Deathcore sucks."

fucking hillarious cause it's true.

Comr on guys, there are a lot of talented deathcore bands. For example All Shall Perish is fucking tight live, and they kick really hard

Im open to everything and I love music. So, cd tha reaches to my hands, cd that I'll listen.

 

[Panterica]

I actually really cant get into deathcore. But you know what? a lot of them are talented players, good drummers, et al. Vocals still ruin it for me, as do obligatory breakdowns. And i cant think honestly of any deathcore bands i like

 

[metaljohn]

This thread is still going?

Oddly enough, the vast majority of "deathcore" bands, have nothing "core" about them. Even with a lot of newer bands that consider themselves hardcore bands, I'd be more likely to consider them metal bands.

Also, the whole thing with emo/scene/hardcore fags ruining shows, I put off going to a lot of "real" death metal shows, because their fans are largely more annoying to me.

But believe it or not, the opinions go both ways, folks.

 

[Dr Terror]

Problem is the Mortal Kombat mosh pit moves, what is that. Dude is on the other side of the pit & your spamming high punch - Fuck off mate.

The other problem is irreverent sentence band name... "Fire at the morgue" or some other combination of girls names & misanthropy. Its usually pretty good stuff until the "DUN DUN... DUDUN DUN DUN... RRRRhheeeeeeeeee" starts. Throw in some meshuggah B-riffs & your done. Its too easy & in vogue. Trve Death Metal has the same problem, shit bands retreading instead of leading.

Not a fan - BUT, & this is key, its keeping metal going. Lotsa kids (especially girls) in "sentance band name" shirts will goto shows because of these bands - they populate the real metal shows because Fire at the Morgue are supporting. They buy merch & support the bands way better than jaded motherfuckers like you and I. That is trve metal.

After some years, the shit will sink - cream will rise - metal always speaks for itself. Nu-Glam-Core will rear its ugly head & facinate a generation of would be metal initiates while all the grownup jaded Deathcore kids will be on forums getting stuffy about trve metal.

 

[Koshchei]

Yeah, but your world doesn't translate to my world, so your two genres are inherently different than mine, and un-useful in classifying music to anyone else but yourself ;p

And that's what makes it so perfect I don't need to dedicate any effort to remembering the Dewey Decimal system of musical sub-sub-sub-genres, and if somebody asks me to categorize something, it will, without fail, fit into "like" or "dislike" - no need to re-organize my musical schema every time somebody tries something slightly different.

 

[xshreditupx]

I actually really cant get into deathcore. But you know what? a lot of them are talented players, good drummers, et al. Vocals still ruin it for me, as do obligatory breakdowns. And i cant think honestly of any deathcore bands i like

you like my band. come on....you know you do (man i dont even like my band most days hahahahaha)

 

[Stealthdjentstic]

fucking hillarious cause it's true.

Comr on guys, there are a lot of talented deathcore bands. For example All Shall Perish is fucking tight live, and they kick really hard

Im open to everything and I love music. So, cd tha reaches to my hands, cd that I'll listen.

They definatly have skill, well some of them anyways

It's just that it gets kind of samish. I like BtBaM though, they're win.

 

[Harry]

fucking hillarious cause it's true.

Comr on guys, there are a lot of talented deathcore bands. For example All Shall Perish is fucking tight live, and they kick really hard

Im open to everything and I love music. So, cd tha reaches to my hands, cd that I'll listen.

All Shall Perish is a great example of amazing Deathcore
They display some pretty fucking amazing musicianship.
Chris Storey (not in the band anymore though) could easily hang in a tech death metal band, he's proof there is some serious talent in deathcore.
I mean fuck, the man does 4 note per string legato runs while some people can barely manage 3 note per string stuff at half the speed and can pick at 15/16 notes per second probably, that's some serious chops right there
I'm interested to see what their new guitarist does, he absolute burns too

 

[JoshuaLogan]

I'm pretty sure this thread has caused me to lose a few brain cells.