HeHasTheJazzHands
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He's been losing viewership actually.
Went from 14 million visits a month, to 700k. His app also went from being the #1 news app (due to the backlash), to #44.
The curtain call for Alex Jones?
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He's been losing viewership actually.
Went from 14 million visits a month, to 700k. His app also went from being the #1 news app (due to the backlash), to #44.
Pseudo-Intellectual
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Look up the herbicide “atrazine” and what it actually does to frogs.
Spaced Out Ace
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Good. Looks like Razorfist was wrong that bitwhatever would replace YouTube.
I tried watching one of Razorfist's vids on bitwhatever the fuck it's called, and the shit wouldn't load. The platform (and similar platforms like it) sound like a scam.
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Lol...aside from Alex Jones I see “abusive behavior” is the next opinion based wrongthink target...comedians better get their attorneys handy
HeHasTheJazzHands
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Nah, people tried to mass-report a bunch of comedians due to the backlash of the James Gunn thing, but it didn't work.
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Stay tuned...it’s not over lol
Good. Looks like Razorfist was wrong that bitwhatever would replace YouTube.
I tried watching one of Razorfist's vids on bitwhatever the fuck it's called, and the shit wouldn't load. The platform (and similar platforms like it) sound like a scam.
I heard Jones was going gangbuster on G+ though
Spaced Out Ace
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What the fuck is G+?I heard Jones was going gangbuster on G+ though
HeHasTheJazzHands
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Exactly.
Yul Brynner
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God I feel sorry for your wife.
You know the G spot, right? Grafenburg? That spot inside the vagina that when rubbed the right way makes your wife do whatever you want? Well G+ is another spot that creates even deeper orgasms.
narad
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The G spot is so far away from G+ that you might as well call it G-.
Yul Brynner
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Exactly.
Drew
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I'm mostly just looking forward to see him lose the lawsuit brought against him by the Newtown victims' families. Dude doesn't seem to realize that you actually CAN'T just make shit up and report it like it's fact.
HeHasTheJazzHands
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Well, the Infowars app dropped even lower on the App Store list.
Because it's been removed and banned.
Because it's been removed and banned.
BenjaminW
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Damn. I miss the good content that was Alex Jones videos on a daily basis.
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My random thoughts:
Obviously he's pretty crazy, and putting on a show, but I really think the social media companies ganging up on him is unjustified. He's a harmless crank, not a terrorist.
It sets a slightly worrying precedent about who controls public opinions. Yes, FB/twitter/etc are entitled to set their own T&C for using their services, but they doesn't mean they *should* ban him IMO.
Firstly, I question the background of the ban. The sudden deluge of bans from every single social media company isn't because Jones suddenly started breaking all of the rules. He's been on every platform, saying the exact same stuff for years. This is politically driven.
Secondly, I question the legitimacy of the ban. I feel like the companies searched for excuses to ban him. They cited policies of hate speech, discrimination etc, but I've never actually seen any racist quote attributed to him (perhaps someone can correct me). I quickly scanned his Wikipedia page while writing this, and the only possible thing is his theory about the government planning a "white genocide", and that's mixed in with anti-vaccine, weather control and all sorts of other crazy stuff. He's also frequently labelled as "far right", but he's always come across as more libertarian (and nut job) to me.
Twitter cited the video of him "harassing" a reporter, which was really no more heckling than what Huckabee Sanders gets on a daily basis. They also say he told people to "grab their rifles" and "arm up" etc, which is pretty typical hyperbolic Jones talk, rather than some actual call for violence. There are plenty of actual US politicians openly calling for Trump staffers to be chased out of restaurants, chased out of movie theatres etc, and calling for people to "take to the streets".
Thirdly, I worry about the power of social media companies. I personally can't see any reason to trust Facebook's judgment, and I wouldn't trust the government to decide those things either. I'm going to sound like Jones here, but it's not as if the government or big companies haven't pulled a LOT of shady shit in the past. It was a crazy conspiracy theory to say that the government were reading all of our emails, until Snowden proved it. We need whistle blowers, rebels, and the loudmouth lunatics who end up correct occasionally as part of our society.
These social media companies, despite their cheery TV adverts and young trendy CEOs, are now the largest and most powerful companies in the world. Big Pharma, energy, oil, defence companies etc are openly demonised, but Facebook or Google is WAY more powerful than any of those - both financially, in terms of lobbying/political connections, and in terms of swaying public opinion.
Just my thoughts anyway. I'm not a fan of Jones, but this whole mass banning feels like politics rather than any sort of reasonable reaction.
Obviously he's pretty crazy, and putting on a show, but I really think the social media companies ganging up on him is unjustified. He's a harmless crank, not a terrorist.
It sets a slightly worrying precedent about who controls public opinions. Yes, FB/twitter/etc are entitled to set their own T&C for using their services, but they doesn't mean they *should* ban him IMO.
Firstly, I question the background of the ban. The sudden deluge of bans from every single social media company isn't because Jones suddenly started breaking all of the rules. He's been on every platform, saying the exact same stuff for years. This is politically driven.
Secondly, I question the legitimacy of the ban. I feel like the companies searched for excuses to ban him. They cited policies of hate speech, discrimination etc, but I've never actually seen any racist quote attributed to him (perhaps someone can correct me). I quickly scanned his Wikipedia page while writing this, and the only possible thing is his theory about the government planning a "white genocide", and that's mixed in with anti-vaccine, weather control and all sorts of other crazy stuff. He's also frequently labelled as "far right", but he's always come across as more libertarian (and nut job) to me.
Twitter cited the video of him "harassing" a reporter, which was really no more heckling than what Huckabee Sanders gets on a daily basis. They also say he told people to "grab their rifles" and "arm up" etc, which is pretty typical hyperbolic Jones talk, rather than some actual call for violence. There are plenty of actual US politicians openly calling for Trump staffers to be chased out of restaurants, chased out of movie theatres etc, and calling for people to "take to the streets".
Thirdly, I worry about the power of social media companies. I personally can't see any reason to trust Facebook's judgment, and I wouldn't trust the government to decide those things either. I'm going to sound like Jones here, but it's not as if the government or big companies haven't pulled a LOT of shady shit in the past. It was a crazy conspiracy theory to say that the government were reading all of our emails, until Snowden proved it. We need whistle blowers, rebels, and the loudmouth lunatics who end up correct occasionally as part of our society.
These social media companies, despite their cheery TV adverts and young trendy CEOs, are now the largest and most powerful companies in the world. Big Pharma, energy, oil, defence companies etc are openly demonised, but Facebook or Google is WAY more powerful than any of those - both financially, in terms of lobbying/political connections, and in terms of swaying public opinion.
Just my thoughts anyway. I'm not a fan of Jones, but this whole mass banning feels like politics rather than any sort of reasonable reaction.
My guess would be it's something in the middle.
Silicon Valley is known to have a liberal bias but you can't overlook how effectively social media was used in 2016 to elect a Republican president (see: close relationship between Facebook and Cambridge Analytica).
As a liberal/progressive, I've long held that the big IT companies might feign being socially liberal just because of their age and the demographics of where they headquarter their business but economically (which is the shit that means more to me), they've always been willing to take money from anybody and always in favor of less regulations and less taxes, poor conditions for workers, etc.
With all that in mind, I think the Jones thing comes down to the fact they were facing enough backlash from how effectively the right have been able to use social media (folks like Jones and Milo), mixed in with an also effective Russian influence campaign (I'm not talking collusion here, I'm talking about the divisive, anarchistic fake Facebook groups they made arguing positions 180 degrees from eachother) and they were getting enough pressure to start moderating their platforms to an extent there was never pressure to do before. That's the answer to why Jones and why now; it was increasingly starting to look like enabling right wing speech was going to to cost them more money than it was making them.
At the end of the day, the way the law reads, it's their websites and they get to make the rules much like here. It sucks but there's still ways guys like Jones could be using social media effectively without inviting a ban (see: POTUS). The GOP would be cutting off their nose to spite their face, being the party of "decreased regulations and freedoms for corporations" and also advocating making companies allow specific material on their websites just because a guy like Jones is sloppy and it's cost him in today's climate.
Don't forget the lawsuits that Jones is facing. I'm sure any company associated with him in any way would want to distance themselves, especially ones which give him a platform. If not for social, ethical or political reasons, at least financial.
Big picture: if Jones loses these suits, the next ones in line are the enablers like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Spotify etc. They're already being implicated in more than one of the current cases.
Big picture: if Jones loses these suits, the next ones in line are the enablers like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Spotify etc. They're already being implicated in more than one of the current cases.
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More than likely all these big social media giants are in for some good old anti-trust law suits.
It’s also no coincidence they are banning and censoring right before the mid-term elections.
That my friends is the highest form of election meddling.
It’s also no coincidence they are banning and censoring right before the mid-term elections.
That my friends is the highest form of election meddling.
