US Political Discussion: Biden/Harris Edition (Rules in OP)

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RevDrucifer said:
That experience came off as reckless and was rather jarring to me, I’m not sure if my boss even realized my jaw was halfway to the floor. The specific call that the question came up on was an elderly woman and whatever the med was, she needed it to stay alive.

Fortunately, the only prescription I’ve ever needed was amoxicillin when I was a kid, so I have zero experience in that regard.
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I've unfortunately got more transparency into this than most - I'm married to a doctor, and my dad was a doctor, so I've heard a TON about the other side of this, how doctors often have to navigate the process of figuring out what medications are covered by which insurances, which alternatives are preferred and which they have to start with or otherwise rule out before moving on to other alternatives, etc. It's a logistical nightmare and a not-insignificant portion of my wife's workweek is spent working through prior authorizations, providing documentation to insurers that their preferred drug is not the right option for a particular patient (usually, because "we tried it and it was less effective/had worse side effects") to get them to cover something else.

But, all I'm saying is that's a long-running problem with the American healthcare system, that it's virtually impossible to "comparison shop" in that level of detail. The ACA didn't break that, just made it WAY more visible to you that it was broken.
 

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Gov. DeSantis signs bill to tackle retail theft, porch pirates in Florida​


Gov. Ron DeSantis signs legislation hiking criminal penalties for retail thieves and "porch pirates""We're not gonna put up with that [...] Your package is gonna be there, and if it's not, someone is gonna have hell to pay.""We will raise penalties [...] They are going to be deterred.""We are gonna hold people accountable."
 
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Glades said:
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local...ckle-retail-theft-porch-piracy/3279865/?amp=1


Gov. DeSantis signs bill to tackle retail theft, porch pirates in Florida​


Gov. Ron DeSantis signs legislation hiking criminal penalties for retail thieves and "porch pirates""We're not gonna put up with that [...] Your package is gonna be there, and if it's not, someone is gonna have hell to pay.""We will raise penalties [...] They are going to be deterred.""We are gonna hold people accountable."
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He said retail theft has been on a downward trend for four years in Florida. Not a criticism, just idk what the point is.

At my local grocery store they have third party security guards, shopping carts that have weight limits that have a mechanism that clamp the wheel if it's too heavy, or it will clamp if you go too far in the parking lot. They also got rid of handbaskets. Is it because theft laws are too lax here, beats me:shrug:
 
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Moongrum said:
He said retail theft has been on a downward trend for four years in Florida. Not a criticism, just idk what the point is.

At my local grocery store they have third party security guards, shopping carts that have weight limits that have a mechanism that clamp the wheel if it's too heavy, or it will clamp if you go too far in the parking lot. They also got rid of handbaskets. Is it because theft laws are too lax here, beats me:shrug:
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It's hard to unpack the retail theft issue. It's pervasive yes, but the type of crime feels different from area to area. And multiple times stores went under the microscope and it turned out they were inflating the theft claims, which obscures the issue and makes it that much harder to actually address it.

I know the big one that stands out is Walmart, with the transition to self-checkout and implementation of more aggressive order and receipt checking. If the self-checkout was at all implemented to save on the cost of labor, I have to imagine it was offset by the amount of theft that slips by, as well as additional security and whatever litigation comes with pursuing it.
 
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Randy said:
It's hard to unpack the retail theft issue. It's pervasive yes, but the type of crime feels different from area to area. And multiple times stores went under the microscope and it turned out they were inflating the theft claims, which obscures the issue and makes it that much harder to actually address it.
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I believe I agree with you. Like you said, I think the rampant theft is bigger (or maybe nuanced?) than just "these people are stealing because the punishment isn't severe enough" Or maybe that is the case in Florida at least, I'm not sure😅
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I know the big one that stands out is Walmart, with the transition to self-checkout and implementation of more aggressive order and receipt checking. If the self-checkout was at all implemented to save on the cost of labor, I have to imagine it was offset by the amount of theft that slips by, as well as additional security and whatever litigation comes with pursuing it.
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This is a very good point. the grocery store I was talking about pushes the customers to use self checkout more, I always just chalked it up to staffing issues. But correlating anti-theft measures to the increased usage of self checkout seems pretty reasonable.
I have to say, though, my town is a bit of a shit hole hence my :shrug:reaction to it all lol
 
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GOP: "Shoplifters, illegals, and predators need to be killed. Mob justice is okay."

Also GOP: "Paying hush money to a pornstar using campaign funds, $500M in pervasive tax fraud, election fraud, fomenting an insurrection, and interrupting the lawful transition of presidential power are all victimless crimes!"

Lindsay Graham: "Please donate, even if it's only $5, even if it's your last $5, to billionaire Donald Trump!" [Lindsay then cries. End scene]
 
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Shoplifting affects the most disadvantaged communities the worst. When stores start closing in the inner cities because of out of control theft, it is the people in those inner cities that lose access to food, pharmacies, etc.

It’s not a GOP or Democrat issue. Protecting the disadvantaged people is everyone’s concern. Large amounts of people are affected by a very small percentage of criminals.
 
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Glades said:
Shoplifting affects the most disadvantaged communities the worst. When stores start closing in the inner cities because of out of control theft, it is the people in those inner cities that lose access to food, pharmacies, etc.

It’s not a GOP or Democrat issue. Protecting the disadvantaged people is everyone’s concern. Large amounts of people are affected by a very small percentage of criminals.
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A) No.

www.brookings.edu

Retail theft in US cities: Separating fact from fiction | Brookings

www.brookings.edu www.brookings.edu

www.governing.com

Debunking the Myth of a Shoplifting Crisis

States are passing new laws to combat retail theft, though government data doesn’t show that it is actually increasing. None of the new laws are likely to reduce crime and could disproportionately impact marginalized groups.
www.governing.com www.governing.com

B) Whataboutism in full effect here.

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IME the places with shit "worth stealing" i.e. high value items are very hard to steal from, and people stealing from grocery stores are stealing.... (wait for it.....) groceries. if people are stealing groceries, we have failed as a society to meet their basic needs. I'm not ashamed to admit I've stolen groceries, I'm also glad (and fortunate) to not need to do that anymore. Those stores are all engaged in extracting resources from the communities they exist in, whether through price inflation or low wages. In summation, fuck'em.
 
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Tennessee when their birth rate plummets, leading to a demographic crisis:

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