Covid 19/Coronavirus

[sleewell]

lmao!!!!!!!!!!

seriously why are we cutting trees down?!? i haven't seen anything made of wood in a long time - if ever. this one goes all the way to the top i tell ya!!!!

 

[Se7enHeaven]

lmao!!!!!!!!!!

seriously why are we cutting trees down?!? i haven't seen anything made of wood in a long time - if ever. this one goes all the way to the top i tell ya!!!!

Most homes have lumbar in them. A 2x4 in Canada now costs $6, whereas a year ago it was $2. Overall framing, roofs. stuff like that.

 

[TedEH]

My back has lumbar. I can't think of a single thing made from trees.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

 

[sleewell]

bruh

 

[Se7enHeaven]

My back has lumbar. I can't think of a single thing made from trees.

furniture, homes (as already indicated), guitars (I think you play one), speaker cabinets (you may use those as well), some pedal boards (again), toothpicks, pencils...

 

[TedEH]

I just legitimately laughed out loud. My morning is made.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

Laughing so hard my back hurts.

 

[sleewell]

holy shit. i dont even...

 

[Mathemagician]

Super-boring response for the sake of anyone reading who may be unaware:

Materials prices shoot up because they were hampered at the source by closures/shutdowns of businesses for who knows how long depending on the country of origin. Of the companies allowed to reopen they’ve had to implement Covid protocols for distancing etc which would generally negatively affect amount processed. Then global shipping and transport has been slowed to a crawl for the last year+ decreasing supply further.

And on the demand side you have massive increase in residential demand for lumber as homeowners have engaged in project after project to both make use of their new free time while quarantined and add useable space to their homes.

It’s just basic supply and demand. But it’s more fun to link videos that say “It’s a conspiracy.” It’s always a conspiracy. The most obvious and logical reason is too boring, so let’s play “who can say the most ridiculous nonsense”.

Bonus point for convincing others who are not skilled at critical reasoning.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

Materials prices shoot up because they were hampered at the source by closures/shutdowns of businesses for who knows how long depending on the country of origin. Of the companies allowed to reopen they’ve had to implement Covid protocols for distancing etc which would generally negatively affect amount processed. Then global shipping and transport has been slowed to a crawl for the last year+ decreasing supply further.

And on the demand side you have massive increase in residential demand for lumber as homeowners have engaged in project after project to both make use of their new free time while quarantined and add useable space to their homes.

Nooo, couldn’t be basic supply and fucking demand. It’s a conspiracy. It’s always a conspiracy. The most obvious and logical reason is too boring, so let’s play “who can say the most ridiculous nonsense”.

Bonus point for convincing others who are not skilled at critical reasoning.

I don't know, can you back that up with any data?

 

[Mathemagician]

I don't know, can you back that up with any data?

My $1,000+ Per month in financial data subscriptions, lol.

If there is anything I’ve learned about speaking with people who argue in bad faith, is that they show up to drop a little “quip” or link, and then instantly disappear whenever anyone disproves their baseless claims with data. Because “losing” to a peer reviewed article isn’t fun anymore.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

My $1,000+ Per month in financial data subscriptions, lol.

If there is anything I’ve learned about speaking with people who argue in bad faith, is that they show up to drop a little “quip” or link like they think they are fucking Q from their mass delusion of an online LARP game and then instantly disappear whenever anyone disproves their baseless claims with data.

This thread is delivering today.

 

[Mathemagician]

This thread is delivering today.

Hey, I edited my comment to be nicer.

 

[TedEH]

I'm not sure I have the spine to comment any further.

 

[sleewell]

yea i dunno... that point is not very well supported, its almost like you need to dial up the lumbar support or something.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

Hey, I edited my comment to be nicer.

I'm sure he has the backbone to withstand your criticism.

 

[nightflameauto]

This thread. WTF? LOL.

FWIW, our demand in the cabinet industry has been through the roof for months at this point. We're discussing adding another shift just to try and un-bury ourselves from the lead time hell we've found ourselves in. It's absurd.

And some of those cabinets are made from trees.

 

[Drew]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a vaccine do nothing in terms of your ability to spread it to other people anyway? You might not get sick yourself, but if we have no proof it stops you from being a carrier, then the mask is still necessary because it's not about protecting yourself at that point.

I mean, for a lot of us, it was never about protecting ourselves anyway - I could get the rona and be fine - but I know plenty of people who wouldn't be if they got it from me.

My best guess, from what's coming out of the CDC, is they believe it's at least fairly effective at stopping transmission via vaccinated individuals, but aren't ready to fully commit to that given the incomplete picture they have right now. It's awfully hard to understand their guidance that fully vaccinated adults can socialize indoors without masks with low risk adults, but should still wear masks around high risk ones.

 

[Drew]

Hey, I edited my comment to be nicer.

It might help to go back and reread a couple posts above yours, which could really provide some support for what you're seeing getting towards the bottom of thread.