Heavy as fuck tone

[DarkWolfXV]

Basically, someone here posted this:

(skip to 0:41 for no intro)
And i fell in love with the heaviness, i know that most of it is low tuning and the slow riff, but what amp could give me such tone?

 

[Chickenhawk]

Roger Beaujard is a huge fan of digital processing (just look at GRINDbot), so it wouldn't surprise me if he used some sort of processor for the guitar tone.

 

[DarkWolfXV]

Cant find GRINDbot anywhere, all that pops up are WoW and other MMO grind bots:/

 

[JeffHenneman]

Alot of the heaviness is the guitar mixed with the bass. On the slow chuggy riffs the bass is pretty audible. Its just that the guitar is scooped enough to mess with the bass to form one heavy ass tone.

 

[Saidincontext]

Get a equalizer, make the bandwidth of the bass really low to seperate from mids/highs, but set the mids/ highs pretty close, scoop your mids back, probably quite a bit, but keep it normal on the amp, maybe even boost there, boost the bass and treble, but not too much, should be about right. You'll also need a truckload of distortion, probably a pedal for boost, heavy amp distortion getts pretty muddy most times. The range of all this depends on your amp/guitar/pickups.

 

[Nile]

Holy shit that's fuck tons of heavy.

 

[Devyn Eclipse Nav]

I was able to get something pretty close with an old Zoom 510 dual power driver multi effects unit by combining the Light OD & Metal settings, and a Peavey Stereo Chorus on the clean channel with the bass, treble, and presence all the way up, and mids all the way down. It was actually not that bad.

If you manage to find these, they're pretty cheap, so it won't break the bank (I spent a grand total of $235 for both,) and you should be able to get it. Maybe cut back on the presence and treble a bit to make it a bit boomier, but you're going to want basically no mids coming from the amp, as it has a LOT of middle frequencies naturally in the sound. For comparison, mids scooped out entirely on that thing is mids between 10 and 11 O'clock on my amp at home.

 

[MrPepperoniNipples]

this is so morbid angel


i love it

 

[malice]

Cant find GRINDbot anywhere, all that pops up are WoW and other MMO grind bots:/

I can't really help on achieving that tone but just to clarify Chickenhawk's comment, according to Roger Beaujard's Wikipedia page, GRINDBot is a

100% digital American grindcore band

A MySpace page for the band is here and there is an official site here but it appears broken for me.

Hope that helps .

 

[boltzthrower]

Alot of the heaviness is the guitar mixed with the bass. On the slow chuggy riffs the bass is pretty audible. Its just that the guitar is scooped enough to mess with the bass to form one heavy ass tone.

This^.

Listen for songs where the guitar is playing without the bass, I know there's some parts on the Chainsaw Dismemberment album. All of that high end sizzle is coming from the extremely overdriven bass, and I could see how when first listening to these guys you would think it was guitar.

 

[thetobarmethod]

yea i agree with most of the mid scooping thing(scoop carefully if you are going to do it) and how in the verse u can easily hear the bass doing all that low end work, but this is also de-tuned, and definitely on a seven string. very dimebagish to my ears.

 

[TMM]

+1 to the bass playing a huge part in the tone. I saw them live, & the bass player was playing through some green pedal of some sort... No idea what it was. The guitarist was using an old Line 6 DM-4 into some really basic / budget amp... I think it was an old Crate or Peavey.

 

[DarkWolfXV]

and definitely on a seven string. very dimebagish to my ears.

Not seven string, no no, this is 6 string baritone.

So anyway, for the guitar, i should set amp mids normal, boost bass and treble, then get eq and scoop mids on the eq, and boost mids and bass on bass guitar, so it blends into one heavy-as-fuck tone, right?
Or did i not get it?

 

[JoeChugs]

really basic / budget amp... I think it was an old Crate or Peavey.

my old crate GFX is ridiculously heavy, I still jam on it from time to time

 

[DarkWolfXV]

Well i tried this on my Peavey and it seems like 75% on way to this level of heaviness is cranking pre gain above 7, though it gets quite muddy at this level, try a lot of low, like at 7, mids at 5-6 and highs 6, resonance 6, presence 7. Probably with uber distorted bass playing it would be even closer to this tone, gotta go jam with my bassist friend.

 

[jllozano]

a rocktron mAXE preamp can get you that exact tone....just use a nice power amp

 

[Saidincontext]

Well i tried this on my Peavey and it seems like 75% on way to this level of heaviness is cranking pre gain above 7, though it gets quite muddy at this level, try a lot of low, like at 7, mids at 5-6 and highs 6, resonance 6, presence 7. Probably with uber distorted bass playing it would be even closer to this tone, gotta go jam with my bassist friend.

Are you talking about o'clock or 1 being dead to the left?

 

[Stealthdjentstic]

Its all in the bass tone. Listen to Rabid and you can tell

 

[Saidincontext]

Its all in the bass tone. Listen to Rabid and you can tell

Yes that's part of the mid-scoop. It blends highs with the snare and lows with bass

 

[Saidincontext]

If I were going to say, he's probably using a Crate gx-130c, which actually have pretty killer tone, and an automatic mid scooped sound from the amp-SS.