New metal mix, need some compression help!

[Farcry0092]

Hey guys, ive got an issue that I cannot for the life of me seem to solve.

Leyer newest mix by Farcry0092 on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

theres my latest song im working on for my band, sans vocals per usual. I think it sounds pretty good, however theres some really weird swelling that happens at 25 seconds, and right at 3 minutes.

I know its an issue with a compressor somewhere but I cannot figure it out at all. Can anyone shed some light on this for me?

Thanks guys!

 

[RedSkull]

how do you actually pan your guitar? not even sure if its in the center or left and right

 

[Farcry0092]

all guitars and bass are panned hard left and right, one track on each side, no double tracking at all either.

 

[RedSkull]

what is your guitar source? trying to put the finger on the problem here, they sound very distant. and it seems to be more than just a volume problem.

 

[Luke Acacia]

I cant really help you with your problem but I can tell you its sounding awesome and you should be proud of that so far.

 

[Farcry0092]

Thanks a lot man!

Im using a Line 6 Pod XT live. when im just jamming a long to stuff the guitars sound fine but they end up sounding different in the mix. the only e4ffects i use is a multiband compressor on each track.

 

[Tyler]

You should try lowering the highs a bit and some out of the "cardboard" zone as some call it. Its good, but the bass sounds a bit too boomy and guitars a little too thin. Just my

 

[Farcry0092]

What exactly is the cardboard zone? like where about should i make the cuts?

 

[Farcry0092]

Leyer4 by Farcry0092 on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

Heres a newest mix. Is this in the righ direction or should i undo everything again?

 

[Sinborn]

you got a sloooow release in there somewhere, but I can't tell if it's guitar or bass or a group.

I also think the snare needs different reverb.

Edit: I did not hear your new mix before posting this. I think I like the old mix more tbh. The new one sounds a bit harsh, like you EQed too much.

I also forgot to say previously that this is a pretty rockin' track man. Nice work.

 

[Tyler]

What exactly is the cardboard zone? like where about should i make the cuts?

the cardboard zone is pretty much an area that just makes the clarity better when you take a couple of dB out. its between 500 and 800Hz

and for highs I usually take about 2 or 3dB out of 3800 to 4k region

 

[Farcry0092]

Thanks for the advice guys!

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I did my best working your ideas in there, lemme know if its getting better or not

 

[niffnoff]

Edit: Nevermind

this sounds much better than your original mix dude. I just think the mix is pumping a tad with the kick

 

[Tyler]

There you go! Improvement already. Just keep working with it and you'll learn new things. I always double track so if you havent tried it before, it wouldnt hurt to give it a shot, but thats just because im used to it.

Additionally, the song itself is very well written

 

[Farcry0092]

Niffnoff, would turning the kick down fix the problem or would just cutting out a tad of the lower end be the better route?

and Nellings, I used to double track everything, but im not patient enough to get perfect every time so it always sounded more muddy than anything.

Thanks for the help guys!

 

[Drummerrrrr]

How hard are you hitting your master limiter at that point? Also, guitars need to sit back a tad, could do with less gain. Also, I reckon that riff at the start would work wayyyyy better if you had it sitting about -3dB or so below the rest of the mix so 0:06 hits harder. Nice writing man, it's a great start!

 

[Farcry0092]

Thanks for the help and kind words guys! Had a busy weekend so I havnt had time to mess with the mixing at all till tonight.

Heres what ive got now: Leyer555 by Farcry0092 on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

rerecorded guitars with less gain, and changed a liittle of the eq as well

Idk where to go next with it. Any ideas?

 

[sh4z]

Nice work! its interesting to see the different critique and your progression in the mixing. love the intro