Unpopular Opinions

[lurè]

People always say that but I've always thought it is the opposite. Compression can help even things out (specially on legato or tapping runs) but you better be a clean player or all your mistakes will turn into unfathomable noise

Agree 100% if you're sloppy no amount of gain or compression can save you.

Actually the typical legato sound with tons of mids and compression will highlight every single mistake you make instead of hiding it.

 

[Metropolis]

Hi-gain will tell if someone has sloppy muting technique or they pick like a wimp. Because there's compression along with all the gain you have to work it a little harder at least in case of rhythm guitars.

 

[CTID]

my interpretation of "high gain hides mistakes" was always in reference to kids playing a Line 6 Spider III 15W on Insane with the gain all the way up and the mids all the way down. that'll turn everything you play into a senseless mush. it seems generally most of the guitar community has kind of outgrown that tendency nowadays

 

[MFB]

Sorry but I like a minimum level of production value in my music

If you think that's bad, your ears would probably fall off if you listened to the Subterranean EP

 

[Crungy]

my interpretation of "high gain hides mistakes" was always in reference to kids playing a Line 6 Spider III 15W on Insane with the gain all the way up and the mids all the way down. that'll turn everything you play into a senseless mush. it seems generally most of the guitar community has kind of outgrown that tendency nowadays

Says you

 

[MetalDestroyer]

my interpretation of "high gain hides mistakes" was always in reference to kids playing a Line 6 Spider III 15W on Insane with the gain all the way up and the mids all the way down. that'll turn everything you play into a senseless mush. it seems generally most of the guitar community has kind of outgrown that tendency nowadays

I've never really understood the hate for Line 6 Spider III's. I had the 15w one back in the day and I kept it for a few months after I got my 5150 III. Honestly they make a pretty rad practice amp. It would fart out hard when trying to practice with a drummer, but for bedroom volumes it definitely sounds good. And it records decently as well - at least as decently as you could reasonably expect. Are people really that butthurt that a super budget solid state modeler isn't literally a 100W tube half stack? It does what it does very well IMO, especially at used prices (I think I paid 40 bucks for mine in 2010ish).

 

[SalsaWood]

I knew a dude who practiced strictly only clean for years, and he was miles better than I was technically. When it came to actually playing with gain he sounded atrocious. That was maybe a decade ago and he still has a lot of trouble with keeping his guitar quiet. I think you should practice how you want to play with the conditions you want to use.

 

[CTID]

I've never really understood the hate for Line 6 Spider III's. I had the 15w one back in the day and I kept it for a few months after I got my 5150 III. Honestly they make a pretty rad practice amp. It would fart out hard when trying to practice with a drummer, but for bedroom volumes it definitely sounds good. And it records decently as well - at least as decently as you could reasonably expect. Are people really that butthurt that a super budget solid state modeler isn't literally a 100W tube half stack? It does what it does very well IMO, especially at used prices (I think I paid 40 bucks for mine in 2010ish).

i feel like you read up until the words "Spider III" and then just wrote a response lmao

i have 0 beef with Line 6 or Spider amps. they're "fine". would I ever gig with one? no. would i use one even now to practice at home if i had one? sure. in this day and age i'd take a vypyr or even a mustang LT25 over a spider, though.

 

[MetalDestroyer]

i feel like you read up until the words "Spider III" and then just wrote a response lmao

I wasn't trying to argue directly with you, I was posting my unpopular opinion as a continuation of your comment

 

[CTID]

I wasn't trying to argue directly with you, I was posting my unpopular opinion as a continuation of your comment

fair enough, my bad on that

as far as why it has its reputation? because it's what beginner guitarists can afford, so the sound of someone who hasn't really gotten skilled yet is the sound that's associated with it. it's stupid, but it is what it is

 

[Crungy]

fair enough, my bad on that

as far as why it has its reputation? because it's what beginner guitarists can afford, so the sound of someone who hasn't really gotten skilled yet is the sound that's associated with it. it's stupid, but it is what it is

Ime, it's just like you said: max gain, no mids and from what I remember some kids doing was cranked highs so it was extra abrasive and shitty sounding.

 

[jaxadam]

Popular opinion: Some opinions aren’t even worth being unpopular

 

[youngthrasher9]

Ime, it's just like you said: max gain, no mids and from what I remember some kids doing was cranked highs so it was extra abrasive and shitty sounding.

Yup. I used to think they were the worst thing you could pick up as a younger forumite and then one day I was in a GC and a technically excellent player had one dialed in for brutal death metal… very well. Blew me away and I could not replicate his tone (no surprise there, I sucked even worse back then).

 

[gnoll]

If you think that's bad, your ears would probably fall off if you listened to the Subterranean EP

Which is funny because that's where some of the best songs are. Oh well, more for us I guess, or something...

In Flames are tricky though. There's always some good songs and some kind of crap ones. Except after Clayman when there's only crap. But picking a favorite album? Hm, I don't even know. Just give me any album up until Clayman and I'll listen to half and throw the other half in the bin. Ok, except maybe Lunar Strain and Subterranean. They're not very polished, but the music is consistently enjoyable. No cheesy riffs or cringy choruses to ruin things.

Ime, it's just like you said: max gain, no mids and from what I remember some kids doing was cranked highs so it was extra abrasive and shitty sounding.

Were these kids Norwegian by any chance?

 

[Crungy]

Were these kids Norwegian by any chance?

It was in Minnesota, so possibly some Norwegian in their blood?

 

[Seabeast2000]

My t o anz are making sense now.

 

[wheresthefbomb]

What y'all are saying for Line 6 Spider, except in my case it's the humble Peavey Rage. I've never met one that didn't go hard as fuck.

 

[USMarine75]

I love new In Flames…

That said… any Soilwork album > In Flames

 

[USMarine75]

Bjorn Strid could sing into a hairdryer and make it sound good…

 

[TedEH]

Not enough people talk about Soilwork. They're pretty great.